Full Screen | Home | My Files | Profile | Register | Active Topics | Members | Private Messages | Search | FAQ
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

 All Forums
 Norman Boats
 Well My Norman has ...............?
 Evinrude 15HP Issue
 New Topic  Reply to Topic
 Printer Friendly
Previous Page | Next Page
Author Previous Topic Topic Next Topic
Page: of 3

cliveshep

Thailand
1324 Posts

Posted - 02 Jul 2016 :  15:07:59  Show Profile Send cliveshep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
For info Dave, here we use a crapper hands-free, no bog-roll to be seen, a douche or shataf spray washes all the bits so dogs don't stick their noses up your backside like they do in the UK because nothing to smell - we're clean man.

In out malls - bear in mind they call this 3rd world - we have automatic bog seats, and when you sit an arm-rest moves up with a load of buttons on it. For your comfort you can select the douche most appropriate, choose power and temperature, hit start and an arm magically appears from inside the bowl and gives you a thorough clean followed by a blow dry.

I kid you not - that is true. I stood up in one in shocked surprise the first time I used one and it sprayed warm water all over me!

I was soaked from top to bottom, I looked a right plonker coming out of the loos!

But apropos my original description, you of course are only too well aware, you wind-up merchant, of what the ball-valve reference was meant to convey.

Very unfait of you Dave, I'll lay awake now pondering how to get my own back!


Finally living the dream!
Go to Top of Page

jud

United Kingdom
113 Posts

Posted - 02 Jul 2016 :  21:17:34  Show Profile Send jud a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You could probably train the elephant to do that while you're out of town.
Go to Top of Page

cliveshep

Thailand
1324 Posts

Posted - 03 Jul 2016 :  15:05:10  Show Profile Send cliveshep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Having been in a water fight with elephants at our recent Sonkran I can assure you they need no training to hose people down!


Finally living the dream!
Go to Top of Page

jud

United Kingdom
113 Posts

Posted - 03 Jul 2016 :  18:44:27  Show Profile Send jud a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What's a Sonkran, Clive?
He(ferk)ck.
Go to Top of Page

cliveshep

Thailand
1324 Posts

Posted - 04 Jul 2016 :  05:53:56  Show Profile Send cliveshep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Have a look here:
https://www.google.co.th/search?q=songkran+festival+2016&biw=1366&bih=657&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjvxZuwgNnNAhXMpY8KHZ7qCN4QsAQIKg

It's a Traditional Thai festival, involving earining merit and gaining blessing by chucking water and bags of flour over everyone and their cars, bikes elephants you name it.

My car was filthy, kids lining up at the roadside to hurl bowls of muddy water over it/you. Motorbikes are forced into a narrow lane and run the gauntlet of kerbside children, complete with water butts and buckets, hoses, fire hoses, and in one place a tanker with a pump hurling water across everything on the highway.

Elephants are painted up and join in the fun, there are parades and shops do sterling trade in pump-up water guns, folk refil them for you for pennies.

It's a crazy time and even the police trying to keep order are not immune, in fact police cars are special targets.

They also do it in the UK but as it is early in the year they are subdued as it is cold and they don't throw water. There is a Thai Buddhist temple in Wimbledon SW19 London

Here it is hot so in temperatures of 40C plus who cares!


Finally living the dream!
Go to Top of Page

fitvit

United Kingdom
94 Posts

Posted - 04 Jul 2016 :  21:06:03  Show Profile Send fitvit a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This sounds like exactly the same problem I had with my old Honda 100.

I used to mess around with field bikes so have a basic knowledge of engines - enough to have a twiddle anyway!

I worked out that my needle valve wasn't closing properly, so the carb was flooding resulting in my engine cutting out! I took the float out, opened the spring up a bit (literally just pulled it open a bit with my fingers and shoved it back in! Think it worked!

jojo
Go to Top of Page

Mfuller

121 Posts

Posted - 06 Jul 2016 :  08:30:34  Show Profile Send Mfuller a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for confirming!

I have a carb rebuild kit coming from the states (new float valve, gaskets etc) but my god it's taking it time getting here :(
Go to Top of Page

df

United Kingdom
5994 Posts

Posted - 06 Jul 2016 :  11:13:13  Show Profile  Visit df's Homepage Send df a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You will need the proper float level figures, usually measured with carb upside down when the float is resting on the needle (without the spring compressed).



NBAS--The communal colostomy bag of the boating community.
Visit leomagill.co.uk
Go to Top of Page

Mfuller

121 Posts

Posted - 08 Jul 2016 :  09:39:54  Show Profile Send Mfuller a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I believe it's 1-1 3/8 in. (25-35mm).

Luckily I have the service manual.
Go to Top of Page

Mfuller

121 Posts

Posted - 19 Jul 2016 :  09:46:08  Show Profile Send Mfuller a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This engine is killing me :(

We had an outboard specialist out to look at the engine. He removed the carb for us and serviced it using the carb repair kit. Overall the carb was apparently clean. All gaskets changed as well as the float and float valve (set using the settings from the manual). Fuel system generally checked and all seemed fine. Ran the engine at full throttle for 5 minutes with no issue. Great.

Took the boat down the river cruising at about 1/3 throttle. About 10 minutes in it started to splutter and died. Same issue as before. Restarted immediately but starts to cut out after 2 seconds. Limped back home by constantly turning off and restarting. Interestingly at one point we let it rest for 5 minutes and when we tried again it ran for longer, but then the problem returned. Tried with the lid off but made no difference.

The mechanic did notice that their appears to be vaporized fuel blowing back out of the carb. He thinks maybe the tappets are out and that's the next thing to check.

We're running out of ideas and I'm facing having to buy another engine :(
Go to Top of Page

stratford4528

United Kingdom
414 Posts

Posted - 19 Jul 2016 :  22:18:03  Show Profile Send stratford4528 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
IT SOUNDS AS IF YOU COULD HAVE A PARTIAL BLOCKAGE IN THE FUEL LINE
Go to Top of Page

cliveshep

Thailand
1324 Posts

Posted - 20 Jul 2016 :  06:14:10  Show Profile Send cliveshep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
When your engineer did the run-up test, was it with the tank and fuel line of your own engine or a workshop one?

I still think it is a fuel starvation issue, if not the carb and not the fuel pump then in your fuel line it is sucking air? Stopping and starting almost straight away sounds like that, I assume that when you re-start you are squeezing the ptimer bulb every time?

Because if so it shows the answer to your problem lies in thje fuel supply to the engine. Servicing the carburettor may not be your answer but it is not wasted money and effort. Not only is that item ticked off your list but you know it won't need doing again yet. Try fitting a new primer bulb, inspect all pipes thoroughly for abrasions, check all crimped connections, be suspicious of any clipped ocnnections you can manipulate with finger force. Somewhere air is getting in.




Finally living the dream!
Go to Top of Page

Mfuller

121 Posts

Posted - 20 Jul 2016 :  10:27:09  Show Profile Send Mfuller a Private Message  Reply with Quote
>When your engineer did the run-up test, was it with the tank and fuel line of your own engine or a workshop one?

It was our one.

>I assume that when you re-start you are squeezing the ptimer bulb every time?

Nope, just turn the key straight away. When it starts to die, squeezing the primer makes no difference. It's fairly solid and no amount of squeezing it will stop the engine stalling once it's started to go. Even after it's stalled, squeezing the primer before restarting doesn't stop it from stalling again within seconds.

I've checked all the pipes and they all look good and tight. I had to put a new connector on the end of the fuel line as it was originally used with a Honda. Now it has a brand new Evinrude connector. That's very tight to the pipe. I must admit it doesn't connect to the engine very tightly, but I can't see/hear any air being pulled in.
Go to Top of Page

cliveshep

Thailand
1324 Posts

Posted - 21 Jul 2016 :  10:23:23  Show Profile Send cliveshep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Could it then be a mechanically induced electrical fault? A loose connection, possible coupled to the throttle linkage?

I'm at a loss here without the engine to peer into. You could try all electrical connections looking for discolouration caused by corrosion and remake or clean them, are the ignition coils in good condition?

Nothing getting splashed and shorting?

I once had an engine that would only scream flat out, the plate under the flywheel doing advance/retard as the throttle was opened, i.e moving with the throttle linkage, had chafed a wire, then engine cut out at certain throttle positions as the chafed wire shorted out.

Sorry friend, I'm foxed if there are positively no air-leaks and you've done the carburetor and the pump is ok. Oh - you ought to check next time it stops that there is fuel in the float chamber just to be sure, it probably has a drain plug under it.


Finally living the dream!
Go to Top of Page

Deano

United Kingdom
1843 Posts

Posted - 21 Jul 2016 :  19:19:23  Show Profile  Visit Deano's Homepage Send Deano a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Over heating coil... breaking down.....

Seams like you have eliminated most things fuel related....... start looking at intermit ant electrical...???

Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse.
Freeman 32 "Liberty"
See the photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/54758027@N00/
Go to Top of Page
Page: of 3 Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
Previous Page | Next Page
 New Topic  Reply to Topic
 Printer Friendly
Jump To:
© N.B.A.S. 2020 Go To Top Of Page
Snitz Forums 2000