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Sal Garfi

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Posted - 20 May 2016 :  14:08:35  Show Profile Send Sal Garfi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hello All,

I have to admit that I thought this website was dormant, but I finally joined the forum and I see that there is still life left in it. I am a new Norman owner since I acquired an early 1970s Norman 22 last August/September.

The boat's previous owner looked after her well, and she's been anti-fouled, but can any of you tell me how frequently she will need anti-fouling? He did it yearly, but what do others in the forum do.

I'm very pleased with my Norman, and I look forward to many years cruising in her!

Thanks for any input!

Sal

df

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Posted - 20 May 2016 :  14:25:08  Show Profile  Visit df's Homepage Send df a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Welcome to the asylum Sal
For inland fresh water antifoul is mostly cosmetic, when it looks realy tatty at the waterline or when it happens to be out anyway is the normal interval for antifouling, get a tin of cheap antifoul of the colour you want, pressure wash as it comes out of the water and most crud will drop off, let it dry and brush any loose stuff off, go round the waterline first and then underneath till you run out (maybe 2 coats at waterline, it's the only bit seen)and forget about the rest.
Not much grows in fresh water where there's no light, don't even consider sanding it's just not worth it.
If you do get a bit of growth it won't realy affect displacement speed on a river.
Don't antifoul anything aluminium, if you have an outdrive leave a 1" gap around it or it will likely cause galvanic corrosion.
The main site doesn't do much all the useful stuff is on the forum.



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Sal Garfi

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Posted - 20 May 2016 :  15:11:06  Show Profile Send Sal Garfi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ah.., an asylum, that sounds like my profession!
Anyway, what you say is interesting. I got the impression from other forums that (and to exagerate to make a point) 'you'll die' if you don't anti-foul. My boat was anti-fouled every year by its previous owner, and when I got it last August and it was taken out of the water for transport to Sawley, her hull was spotless.
The boat will be staying in the water most of the time, and when my present job ends within three years (I presently use her as a partial live aboard) my wife and I might actually take her out for a year's cruise (we'll put a stove in her for that).

Sal
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df

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Posted - 20 May 2016 :  15:58:15  Show Profile  Visit df's Homepage Send df a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Apparently we'll all die from osmosis too but no one ever sunk from it and most older boats have it to some extent, theres a lot of scaremongering around boats.



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Deano

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Posted - 20 May 2016 :  17:27:05  Show Profile  Visit Deano's Homepage Send Deano a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Freshwater antifouling is the biggest financial con this side of the PPI scandal.....

Do as Dave says... or even less if you can get away with it.... I know folks that wouldn't sleep at night if they didn't put at least £100 of products on the bottom of their boat EVERY year.... madness, sheer madness.....
I'm very vain when it comes to waterline tidiness.... I use 750ml every year..... but some years, I just don't bother... a quick wash and scrub gets it looking like new.

This year I'm saving even more money by keeping my boat on blocks in a yard whilst a quote is being prepared for some repairs..... Grrr!!!

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Edited by - Deano on 20 May 2016 17:28:35
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Sal Garfi

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Posted - 20 May 2016 :  17:46:06  Show Profile Send Sal Garfi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dean.., what you say is even more interesting, and you boat on the Great Ouse (and beyond?)? Can that be a source for the dreaded zebra (tiger or whatever it's called) mussel?

Sal
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Deano

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Posted - 20 May 2016 :  18:33:49  Show Profile  Visit Deano's Homepage Send Deano a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I saw some zebra muscles one year... a small bunch close to the keel.... I smashed them up on the slip.. I also had one grow in the water inlet filter too..... that met a nasty end too..

Not a massive problem, but worse in some areas..... I don't think anti foul makes much difference to them though....

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Sal Garfi

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Posted - 23 May 2016 :  10:38:16  Show Profile Send Sal Garfi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've also querried this on the Canal Boat Forum, and people are all of mixed opinions (and they can get so contentious!).

I'm not going to worry too much, though, and deal with it as and when the boat has to come out of the water. I'll also, then, probably just give the boat a good power wash below the water line. To be honest, one of the supposed attractions of a GRP boat is the fact that it shouldn't have to come out of the water at frequent intervals - as with narrowboats - for blacking, or the equivalent.

Thanks for your replies!

Sal
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df

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Posted - 23 May 2016 :  11:10:30  Show Profile  Visit df's Homepage Send df a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That one I would disagree with, an older grp hull does well to come out for a few months every couple of years to dry out as they do absorb some water, unless it's an epoxy hull but that is rare.



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Sal Garfi

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Posted - 25 May 2016 :  12:47:48  Show Profile Send Sal Garfi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmmm? In all truth I don't think I'll be able to get my Norman out of the water for a long period of 'drying' time (ie a few months) for a bit of a while. I'll just have to put my faith into the integrity of her build.

Sal
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df

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Posted - 25 May 2016 :  12:56:49  Show Profile  Visit df's Homepage Send df a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There's plenty that never come out so it should be fine, the older ones were laid up pretty thick.



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