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Ray47
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 15 May 2013 : 08:10:27
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Be gentle with this Newbie  I have just bought a 23 foot MKI, it has a thin(ish) carpet glued to all of the ceiling and most of the walls. Is this standard or has an un-employed carpet fitter had too much spare time? The boat is dry so it doesn't appear to be hiding anything.
Can I remove it and what will the surface/material be behind. I would prefer to do without the carpeted ceiling, it's pretty dusty!
Any suggestions on cockpit flooring (this is also carpeted)
Thanks
P.S. Great web site |
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Wayfoot
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 May 2013 : 12:40:57
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I have a 20ft Norman and I would never carpet it, inside or out
Why would anyone want to carpet the ceiling ?..anyway I guess its a individual thing
Reasons :-
Inside, Due to the nature of the hobby,If you did get a leak you need to lift it all because it will be damp and will smell..urggghhh
Plus, if you decide to sell the boat, people may be put off because they don't like a fitted carpet, or they don't like the colour etc etc.
My preference is to use carpet runners which can be removed and washed on a regular basis. If someone dosen't like them, simply replace or remove
In the cockpit again I have a carpet runner over the boards which are varnished, so in the event I remove the runner, she still looks pretty !
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Lester Mayo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 May 2013 : 17:02:46
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Underneath the carpet on the interior is a gel coat surface. Some people lined out with thin carpet to stop condensation on the cold surface. The ceiling in the morning were never very pleasant from the water droplets if your head touched it.
I started life with nothing and I still have some left |
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trevork
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Posted - 15 May 2013 : 21:32:15
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True enough Lester! I think it would be unfair to let the impression that lining Normans with carpet is always a bad thing remain unchallenged! We have had accounts on here of very successful examples of this.
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Knighty
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 May 2013 : 22:45:57
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My 20 is i believe is factory carpeted on the cabin sides and under and in the bow. Nothing on the ceiling.
The cockpit sides have a sort of cord carpet which i think was fitted prior to me buying the boat.
The floors i fitted cheapo Carpetright cord carpet fitted throughout and in place with double sided carpet tape. Cleans up well and only cost about £12 to do the whole boat. My boat is bone dry so never had an issue. |
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Ray47
United Kingdom
35 Posts |
Posted - 15 May 2013 : 23:30:19
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Thanks for your comments. I'm beginning to think that I'll take the carpet off the ceiling and the upper half of the walls and hope that the glue can be cleaned off to give a decent surface to paint.
The lower half looks to be well fitted as Knighty said probably factory fitted but mine is very dismal as it's a dull brown (very 70's!) I could use it as a template to cut some new light coloured cord.
Would there be a problem if the top half with the gel coat has been glued with Evostik or Bostik type glue? Would thinners or similar damage the gel coat if I tried to clean off the old glue ready for painting.
Sorry if that was a stupid question, but my only experience of fibreglass was a kayak I built in the 70's and I never felt the urge to carpet that!  |
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Lester Mayo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 May 2013 : 08:56:27
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You will probably find its been stuck with contact adhesive. I doubt you will be able to clean it for a painted finish. Dont use solvent as you will be left with a sticky mess from the gel coat melting.
I would take it off and fit a lighter colour carpet. You could use a cheap felt backed carpet or
I have found a company with the proper stuff that supply car trimmers.
www.automobiletrim.com
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Edited by - Lester Mayo on 16 May 2013 08:59:21 |
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Ray47
United Kingdom
35 Posts |
Posted - 16 May 2013 : 20:05:37
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Thanks Lester, I think you are probably right. I'm not taking the carpet off just yet as I want to get some use out of the boat in the nice weather before turning it into a project for the winter.
Thanks also for that link.
I'm also going to ask about windows but I thought I'd better start a new thread. |
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adi-n-chez
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 May 2013 : 21:17:13
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Originally posted by trevork
True enough Lester! I think it would be unfair to let the impression that lining Normans with carpet is always a bad thing remain unchallenged! We have had accounts on here of very successful examples of this.
IIRC Trev, Didn't Nige & Kaths 32 have a carpeted ceiling ? I remember that being a nice job & they never had any probs with condensation.
Have to say - Not seen 'Scruffy Pup' (Ex Wonderful Wednesday) on the soar for a few yrs must have moved on.
Adi
Sewer Tubes ? I'd rather have a D**ncr*ft (Only Kidding) |
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trevork
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Posted - 16 May 2013 : 22:14:13
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| I thought our own "Haddocks Revenge" also had a carpet job??? |
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df
United Kingdom
5994 Posts |
Posted - 17 May 2013 : 07:40:44
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Originally posted by trevork
I thought our own "Haddocks Revenge" also had a carpet job???
Only in the bow and floor, it was a floatex ripoff (floorex I think it was called)very thin and very waterproof but comfy with it and easy to clean.
The headlining was original grp jobbie with a few spare holes, carpet burn on yer bald patch is just too hard to explain away.....
NBAS--The communal colostomy bag of the boating community.
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kev13
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 May 2013 : 17:31:54
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I've carpeted mine as the previous owner had put so many fittings either to the ceiling/walss or through the wall that I had to use something to cover them up. I use a proper van trimmers felt like carpet. Dark bue at the bottom and grey at the top. I'll post photos of the whole project when I get chance.
By the Ray47 which winter will you refit. I thought 1 year and 4 years later of spare time and we are about to relaunch.
Ray47 when you are ready to start work use the search facility on this site as it is fantastic with sooo many nowledgable people |
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kev13
United Kingdom
114 Posts |
Posted - 17 May 2013 : 17:34:57
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| sorry about the spellings in my last comment just got back from work and Friday means a call in the local to check out this weeks special or guest beer. Clearly better than I thought |
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Ray47
United Kingdom
35 Posts |
Posted - 19 May 2013 : 06:22:20
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Thanks Kev13, I realised on closer inspection that leaving the roof without a covering was going to be a major task. Like yours there are that many mods done with shelves and brackets etc it would be a major job to get it looking half decent. I took a trip to Carpetright as others have suggested and have the cord carpet on my shopping list for the autumn.
I was going to ask about windows but found all the answers in previous posts, another job to start in autumn, removing windows and replacing seals and runners. I'll do the roof lining at the same time. |
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Knighty
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 May 2013 : 16:07:27
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| Have an eBay search for roof lining, might make a better job than the heavier cord carpet for the cabin roof and prob look better. |
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kev13
United Kingdom
114 Posts |
Posted - 19 May 2013 : 23:24:24
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| I got all the bits from Eagle boat windows. cheaper than some others and really helpful husband and wife business. I got my roof lining for a van off ebay as I did lots and lots of other bits |
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Fully carpeted Norman?
