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flojim123

United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Jan 2013 :  10:29:54  Show Profile Send flojim123 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
i would like to know if a pump out toilet could be fitted to my norman 20 foot boat if there is enough space the toilet cubical has a porta potti at the moment.

canalboy1949

United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Jan 2013 :  13:12:57  Show Profile  Visit canalboy1949's Homepage Send canalboy1949 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It may be possible, but to be honest you are better off with the Porta Potti. If you have a pump-out toilet and it gets a bit full, you need to find a boatyard that has pump-out facilities. With the Porta Potti, you can just carry the waste to any public toilet for disposal (or in dire straits, dig a hole out in the country somewhere and empty it into that).
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Deano

United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Jan 2013 :  15:11:54  Show Profile  Visit Deano's Homepage Send Deano a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It depends on what you mean by a pump put toilet. Canalboy is talking about a holding tank system. This will take up lots of space and as mentioned, you normally need some kind of pumping system to empty.

Depending on your location you may be able to fit a sea toilet. This pumps directly overboard and is always empty!!!

Many inland waterways systems don't permit them.... for some strange reason????

Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse.
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cliveshep

Thailand
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Posted - 08 Jan 2013 :  13:49:30  Show Profile Send cliveshep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by flojim123

i would like to know if a pump out toilet could be fitted to my norman 20 foot boat if there is enough space the toilet cubical has a porta potti at the moment.



Essentially YES if you don't want to carry any passengers or sit in the cabin, sleep aboard and are prepared to pay £10 a time to pump it out.

Seriously - NO - the holding tank would be in the order of 1200mm x 3450mm deep x 550mm wide and that wouldn't last more than 3 or 4 days but seriously - where would you put it?

I had a tank of that size on an Ocean 30, a massive wide beam boat (10ft 6" beam)and even on that it wasn't hard to see when the holding tank was getting a bit full - we developed a list. AND we still pumped out every 3 days or so although to be fair we had our own pump-out system.

Stick to the "bucket and chuck-it" or Porta Potti cassette system, a Norman 20 is too small for anything else! (And I have had 3 Norman 20's over the years plus of course a lot of much bigger stuff.)



The cost of boating is insignificant compared to costs of a young wife and two teenage kids!
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mikeb

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Posted - 08 Jan 2013 :  18:16:51  Show Profile Send mikeb a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Clive, are you sure about that tank size - it works out to over 2000 litres? You'd have to be going some to fill that in 3 days!

But I agree that a Norman 20 is not big enough to make a pump out toilet practical.
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tigtog

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Jan 2013 :  18:50:56  Show Profile Send tigtog a Private Message  Reply with Quote
plenty of curries, gets it filled quick
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stratford4528

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Jan 2013 :  19:30:56  Show Profile Send stratford4528 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am going to put that type in my boat. It will be like the cassette type in caravans but pumped out with a 12 volt maceration pump.
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adi-n-chez

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Jan 2013 :  19:41:34  Show Profile Send adi-n-chez a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Deano



Depending on your location you may be able to fit a sea toilet. This pumps directly overboard and is always empty!!!

Many inland waterways systems don't permit them.... for some strange reason????

Dean



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Adi

Sewer Tubes ? I'd rather have a D**ncr*ft (Only Kidding)
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cliveshep

Thailand
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Posted - 10 Jan 2013 :  08:40:06  Show Profile Send cliveshep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mikeb

Clive, are you sure about that tank size - it works out to over 2000 litres? You'd have to be going some to fill that in 3 days!

But I agree that a Norman 20 is not big enough to make a pump out toilet practical.



Hahaha - NO, a typo, I meant 450mm deep.

But it isn't the peeing in the loo that fills the tank - it's flushing it! Dependant on how much pumping/flushing it takes to clear the bowl you'd be surprised at how much water winds up in the holding tank.

Elsan and similar use next to nothing to flush - but a proper Blakes on a pump-out uses a lot!


The cost of boating is insignificant compared to costs of a young wife and two teenage kids!
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