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georgeblackwood
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 Posted - 09 Sep 2011 : 22:07:35
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Hi everybody,
Has anybody painted their boat with ordinary household paints rather than the marine variety. I've stripped part of my boat back to the gelcoat because of flaking paint.
I'm thinking of using gloss paint Dulux satinwood (for interior wood and metal)that I have left over from painting the house. Does anybody have an opinion as to whether it is compatible with fibreglass?
I noticed that Neil boatformypotplants in a previous post said he used Dulux Trade Supergrip Primer, Dulux Trade Weathershield Undercoat, and Dulux Trade Weathershield Gloss on his boat.
Obviously the weathershield is designed for outdoor use whereas the stuff I have left over is for interior use. I'm only planning on painting the roof section/top section of the boat for now.
Anybody got any thoughts on the matter? I'd be interested to hear of anybodies previous experience of painting their boats, what paint you used?, how you applied it? (brush,roller,spray gun etc). Any other tips you may have.
All advice welcome
Thanks
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adi-n-chez
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Sep 2011 : 22:39:41
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Most of us use Boat Enamel - I have had excellent results with International & Blakes.
But..... I have had a recent bad experience wit Teamac paint (Its gone a very bad shade !) & I am not the only one locally to us to have experienced this.
Time will tell if Neils choice of paints is a good idea ! - Whatever the choice prep is everything !!!!
I favor the gloss roller application , cant get on with laying off with a brush .
If you can restore the Gelcoat dont paint
Adi
Sewer Tubes ? I'd rather have a D**ncr*ft (Only Kidding) |
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georgeblackwood
31 Posts |
Posted - 09 Sep 2011 : 23:12:23
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Thanks adi-n-chez,
Were you painting over an existing painted finish, just I've noticed when looking on the cans of the proper marine paints that they can only be painted over existing marine paints. I've only owned the boat for a few months and the previous owner didn't know what paint was on the boat. It looks like some kind of gloss/ household paint.
Just to elaborate a bit; I've sanded/ scraped back the paint on the gunwale section of the boat back as far as the gelcoat. The gelcoat is in no fit state to be repaired (especially after I got a bit carried away with the belt sander/angle grinder flap disk combination.
I was hoping to just paint the gunwale section and the roof section. However I have not sanded back the roof section yet and I was intending on just giving it a light hand sanding to take the sheen off and then painting over. The paint on the roof section is in fairly good nick just needs a bit of freshening up.
Has anybody any thoughts on the compatibility of the marine paints with other paints?
Thanks again for the heads up on the teamac paint, I'll avoid this one for sure.
Does the marine paint go far, it seems very expensive for the quantity you get. Do people generally use the two pack paints or single pack marine paints?
Still interested to hear from anybody who has used household paints, I can't believe that me and neil from boatformypotplants are the only people to have considered it as an option.
Also the boat is going to be on a trailer in my garage most of the time so won't be exposed to too much bad weather.
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trevork
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Posted - 09 Sep 2011 : 23:16:13
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| Not all marine paints have to go over like products. International Brightside for instance can be used on most surfaces but, as Adi says, the key is the prep work. |
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tigtog
United Kingdom
421 Posts |
Posted - 09 Sep 2011 : 23:38:58
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| internatioal tolpac excellent paint. |
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georgeblackwood
31 Posts |
Posted - 10 Sep 2011 : 00:00:28
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Thanks trevork and tigtog. There is such a huge range of different marine paints on the market so it's good to know which ones are most suited for my situation.
Still welcoming any more suggestions,
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Jimbo
United Kingdom
585 Posts |
Posted - 10 Sep 2011 : 15:03:16
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| The question that you have to ask yourself is what is different in the outdoor enviroment where your house is and where your boat is? Any good quality exterior durable paint will provide all the protection that you require if the preparation has been carried out properly. With boat paints you will pay a premium because it is going onto a boat ( read bottomless pit) and so a good quality paint can be produced and sold at a ery profitable price where as household paints are engineered to suit a very keenly based market. Having been in the paint industry for 60 years I know of one top selling "Marine paint" that cost £2.50/Lt to manufacture but was sold at £65 /lt and that was some time ago. Enough said. |
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georgeblackwood
31 Posts |
Posted - 10 Sep 2011 : 21:19:20
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Thanks Jimbo,
I'm still considering my options but I guess what you're saying is that if the paint says it's suitable for "interior use" then it's not suitable for painting a boat and the paint is going to end up being effected by the weather. I'm going to have to have a look around and see what's available. I'm still thinking of going down the less conventional route and buying some kind of exterior gloss, but who knows what will happen.
Thanks again for all the advice |
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Lester Mayo
United Kingdom
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georgeblackwood
31 Posts |
Posted - 11 Sep 2011 : 15:58:47
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Thanks Lester Mayo for contact info. for marine paint supplier.
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lord john
United Kingdom
262 Posts |
Posted - 11 Sep 2011 : 16:51:37
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I used johnsons weathershield with good results,if it helps
if a hammer wont fix it,it must be electrical. |
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georgeblackwood
31 Posts |
Posted - 11 Sep 2011 : 18:29:21
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Thanks Lord John. Yes it does help. The boat didn't cost that much to buy so it is difficult trying to justify spending big bucks on marine paint. It's good to hear I'm not alone attempting to use the ordinary exterior paint. I'm sure it will give me a more than satisfactory long lasting finish, after all I'm not after perfection. My main concern was would it stick to the fibreglass/ gelcoat.
I'm now wondering is it worth copying neil boatformypotplants and going for the Dulux trade super grip primer or if an ordinary primer will do the job. I'll have to investigate the cost difference involved.
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lord john
United Kingdom
262 Posts |
Posted - 12 Sep 2011 : 12:35:01
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goldfish looked a bit shabby when we got her so all I did was rub down the gel coat and roller on the paint,masking off where needed.I did use the proper antifoul paint for the bottom of the hull but have since been told that roof bitumen does the same job only cheaper!someone here will be able to advise on that Im sure.
if a hammer wont fix it,it must be electrical. |
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georgeblackwood
31 Posts |
Posted - 12 Sep 2011 : 22:31:40
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Thanks lord john for the tip on the roof bitumen, I'm going to be keeping my boat out of the water on the trailer in the garage so I'm not planning on applying any antifouling for now, but I'll bear that in mind if I decide to keep it on the water at any stage in the future.
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Revolvor
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 Sep 2011 : 14:16:31
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I was browsing the "Guest Register" and found this in the section devoted to "Ocean Adventurer"....( Second entry in the list)
........"She has just had a re-paint after 5 years, the hull was originally done with Dulux Weathershield, the topsides with much more expensive Bradite 2-pack epoxy polyurethane because of the wear factors. The Dulux has neither yellowed nor failed in the five years (so much for the pundits who turn their noses up at house paint on boat hulls), and has had just a wash and a refresher coat of Weathershield only although I have filled and sanded and touched up with undercoat first all the gouges from her previous life which I just painted over when we bought her. The hull now looks as good as new, well, almost!"
John
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georgeblackwood
31 Posts |
Posted - 13 Sep 2011 : 19:46:47
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Thanks Revolver, We're really starting to build a case for using ordinary exterior house paint now. I'm not too sure that we'll convince everybody though. I guess the gunwale part of the boat is going to take the most wear. It originally had a non slip paint on it that I sanded off. I should probably try and replace the non slip. So has anybody got any experience of non slip paint? Any home made attempts(a bit of course sand sprinkled over the wet undercoat). Please tell me if I'm mad......
Even if I have to give the hull a light sanding back and another top coat every year, I wouldn't mind that , sure it will give me something to do over the winters. Perhaps I could change the boats colour annually!!! (hhmmm maybe I should get the first lot of paint on before I get too far ahead of myself)
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Beware wet paint! (non slip also)
