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| Piers |
Posted - 23 Jun 2021 : 20:47:49
Hi all, and apologies for the bombardment.
I've been carrying on with sanding down the paint from my engine outboard bay. In the process, I removed the metal plates where the outboard would sit, and of course, gave the transom a poke while I was at it.
There's a definite cracking where the transom meets the outboard bay, and below it, the transom itself has some give in it. If I push, it moves - a little, but it moves.
I've seen a few posts on here of some length detailing the transom troubles affecting these boats and the necessary repairs...and judging by the state of my boat, I wouldn't put much money on mine being problem-free. But what do you chaps think?
Thanks!
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| philihun |
Posted - 04 Jul 2021 : 13:04:49
Very true Clive, but i have quite a few mates who moored at Bardney during Malcoms time. He had a habit of not telling anybody what he was going to do it seems. Hence a lot of friction.
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| cliveshep |
Posted - 04 Jul 2021 : 05:02:08
Slinging your boat from the full lock, then emptying the lock is a practical way of getting at the bottom. Normally one lifts the boat which costs plenty dinero Senor, bbut holding the boat at a level in rope slings and dropping the water out from under it works just as well.
Malc only did what some of us might have considered doing if we were cheeky enough!
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| Mad Harold |
Posted - 02 Jul 2021 : 23:18:50
Yes, Piers,thats the one.
Not saying much just yet cos I am on the cut having gone to Marsdens tunnel end to take a photo of my little Norman for my scrapbook and as I am on pay as you go being on the internet is bloody dear! |
| philihun |
Posted - 02 Jul 2021 : 18:39:42
Is Malc the guy who hung his boat up in bardney lock nr Lincoln. Opened all the sluices and went to work on his propeller lol.
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| cliveshep |
Posted - 02 Jul 2021 : 05:32:46
He was really in a mental state of complete and constant paranoia and insecurity and had to be handled gently because he had no resilience to overcome hurts at perceived or imagined insults poor man.
But he was a star in the "boating under £1" club without a doubt.
I hope he's ok these days.
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| df |
Posted - 27 Jun 2021 : 19:34:06
Oh yes Clive, did you ever meet him face to face? You'd never forget...
I liked the guy but he was hard work, I hope he's still doing fine.
He took offense at a minor dig here and started to delete everything he ever posted which broke a lot of threads and went down badly but I do have lot of respect for the bloke.
Last time I saw hime was in lincoln boat club and for some reason he thought I might hit him, I was sixteen last time I hit anyone and that was only because I was getting my face panned in at the time (it still shows..), I'm not the sort to hit people...(aka complete wuss)
I got bored and left him with a scandanivian guy who holds it against me...
For boating on a budget he is still my all time hero.
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| cliveshep |
Posted - 27 Jun 2021 : 18:33:48
Crikey - I'd forgotten all about that one from what, 8 years ago?
I was Tech advising on the old Dawncraft site at that time.
Do you remember Malc, Dave F? I think he appeared on this site too from time to time.
He was some character - perfected the art of the 50 pence bodge and did his boating on the sort of budget most of us would cavil at for maintaining a bicycle!
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| df |
Posted - 27 Jun 2021 : 12:39:14
Seeing an old post dug like that reminds me why I didn't want to see this site disappear when we lost Trevor.
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| Piers |
Posted - 27 Jun 2021 : 12:25:25
This post, incidentally : http://normanboats.net/snitz_forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6954&whichpage=1&SearchTerms=transom
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| Piers |
Posted - 27 Jun 2021 : 09:29:47
Thanks for all your suggestions so far. If I’m honest I think that if I do anything, I’m leaning towards doing the whole job with a belt and braces approach, so I’ve no need to worry about it again. Cliveshep, you already outlined a detailed approach when I was trying to identify the boat some months ago, and that may be the way to go. Also, as mentioned, I’ve read a fantastic post on here with lots of pictures of someone who’d done a similar repair, and I’m sure that will be very useful. |
| cliveshep |
Posted - 27 Jun 2021 : 03:27:06
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Originally posted by df
If it's already rotten inside it will stay rotten, idealy you need to let it dry in there first before sealing anything.
One thought would be cut the top edge off and see how much you can remove through that edge until you hit solid wood then cut a load of blocks the right thickness and fill with expanding foam and as many blocks as you can get in there with it so the motor clamps properly then once full cap it off with aluminium angle or channel, it's not a proper fix by any means but fine for a smaller sized motor on rivers.
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Maybe I can build on your post - strips of hardwood full width extending past the wings of the motor-well with polyester resin poured in surrounding each strip and build up that way? Not ideal but at least bonded to the inner/outer grp to an extent and more of a composite and integrated structure. Would probably hold a much bigger motor than the little blocks would and would at least transfer some of the motor load into the motor-well moulding and deck structure as the original design intended?
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| df |
Posted - 26 Jun 2021 : 10:41:11
If it's already rotten inside it will stay rotten, idealy you need to let it dry in there first before sealing anything.
One thought would be cut the top edge off and see how much you can remove through that edge until you hit solid wood then cut a load of blocks the right thickness and fill with expanding foam and as many blocks as you can get in there with it so the motor clamps properly then once full cap it off with aluminium angle or channel, it's not a proper fix by any means but fine for a smaller sized motor on rivers.
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| Mad Harold |
Posted - 26 Jun 2021 : 10:36:34
There was a post (quite some time ago)about fixing a transom.Unfortunatly,I cant find it.
From memory,it gave two methods.
1.cutting the top fibreglass off where the outboard sits,and digging out the rotten ply with a long chisel or something,and filling with resin and matting.
2.Cutting out the fibreglass on the outside of the well section,replacing the ply,and fibreglassing over the transom.
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| Piers |
Posted - 26 Jun 2021 : 08:53:26
On the subject, if I were to simply replace the plates and hope for the best, what would be the best way of to seal and secure the transom, ensuring no rot affects it in future? |
| Piers |
Posted - 25 Jun 2021 : 22:12:45
Interesting, and encouraging too - thanks Ian!
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Originally posted by IanM
If your transom has metal plates on both sides and if your intended engine is small (10 to 15HP) then I'd be inclined to screw the metal plates back on and not worry about it. When you fit the outboard make sure you bolt it through the transom as well as using the clamps and you'll have a pretty solid result (and the engine will be harder to steal).
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