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Dave F

United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 Feb 2019 :  19:25:52  Show Profile Send Dave F a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi all, has anyone fitted a eberspacher type blow heating system?
I've been told it can't go inside the cabin, can't be near the petrol, and the qualified fitter wouldn't go near my Chinese version because it didn't have the CE stamp on it. Apparently, these types are becoming popular, so sod it, I'm determined to fit one somehow.
Any advice would be very helpful. I want it fitted to my Norman mkII
23'.
CHEERS, DAVE F.


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trevork

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Posted - 24 Feb 2019 :  23:21:13  Show Profile  Visit trevork's Homepage Send trevork a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Try these threads on the YBW forum, There are others on other forums as well plus I'm sure I've heard of a faceache group discussing these as well. Your experience so far does not seem typical in that many seem to be finding these to be reasonably reliable and good value even though some mods may be needed for attachments, hoses etc.

http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?511722-Good-Value-Boat-heaters&highlight=chinese+heaters

http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?492470-Chinese-(5kw-)air-heater&highlight=chinese+heaters
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df

United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 Feb 2019 :  08:17:04  Show Profile  Visit df's Homepage Send df a Private Message  Reply with Quote
FIT A CO ALARM!!!!!!!!!!
Take the silencer to a welder first and get the seam round the outside welded as they are not sealed or buy a marine sealed version, keep the exhaust hose well away from any fuel lines and check what it's made of as I think they use ali on the chinky versions so may be worth getting a piece of the webasto/eber hose in stainless and wrap lagging round it.
FIT A CO ALARM!!!!!!!!!!
I was quite anti to start with but they seem to be proving themselves and cost less than the cheapest fix for the pukka versions so can be considered a disposable item.
They probably have a CE stamp but it means chinese export not the proper CE mark (it's done slightly different but very close, typical chinese rip off stuff).
FIT A CO ALARM!!!!!!!!!!
I would run it from a portable outboard tank with bayonet fitting at the tank to keep the bss happy, I've had an outboard powered norman pass like this before with a webasto setup.
DID I MENTION TO FIT A CO ALARM!!!!!!!!!!

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cliveshep

Thailand
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Posted - 25 Feb 2019 :  14:31:38  Show Profile Send cliveshep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
err - do you think they ought to fit a CO alarm?

Just wondrin...................

And there are a couple of groups on Facebook, one is the Dawncraft Owners Group and the other is the Norman Boat Owners Group - both have had posts about successful installations of cheap Chinese diesel heaters, but they do use Eberspacher exhaust hull fittings, lagged exhaust pipe, and change the nylon fuel pipes for copper to comply with BSS.

Funnily enough they never mention CO alarms, perhaps you ought to join up and enlighten them Flinty?



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df

United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 Feb 2019 :  14:37:53  Show Profile  Visit df's Homepage Send df a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Me join FB?? FO!

According to the thread on the ybw motorboat forum insurance companies have been asked specifically about the lack of CE marking on these things and fitment to boats and said no problem, I guess it depends on which insurance company, this surprises me.

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cliveshep

Thailand
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Posted - 01 Mar 2019 :  14:49:01  Show Profile Send cliveshep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
FO ???

What have the Foreign Office got to do with it?

Is this some new legislaty thingummy because they're chinky 'eaters?

Never mind, I love sex and travel (FO) - that's how I wound up married to this little thing 38 years younger than me and have to reside far from the UK madding crowd, police speed traps and CCTV up every lamp post. Don't miss it tho' and anyway I'm so non-pc even Alf Garnett would walk round me.




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jud

United Kingdom
113 Posts

Posted - 01 Mar 2019 :  19:46:20  Show Profile Send jud a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Can't believe you've got 38 years on that little thing, Clive.
It looks very nice.
It's still young for an elephant, though.
Jud.
By the way I've got an Eber D2 for sale if anyone's interested.

Edited by - jud on 01 Mar 2019 20:30:33
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Mad Harold

United Kingdom
228 Posts

Posted - 06 Mar 2019 :  20:20:42  Show Profile Send Mad Harold a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Boat has just had it's BSC renewed,and I fitted a new CO alarm.Not a cheapie,but a Honeywell. Pushing the test button it sounded off,but I remember a member here saying that pressing the test button only tested the sound,but not the sensor.(Think it was (cliveshep)
Put the alarm at the boat's exhaust,(diesel engine)for about 10-15 seconds.Not a peep.Put it at the car's exhaust,(petrol engine)and it sounded off immediately.
After a bit of thought,I realised that diesel doesn't produce much CO,but plenty of other stuff.
Perhaps a different sort of alarm needs fitting as well as the CO one.
One that is sensitive to diesel fumes,although I have not heard of them.
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df

United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Mar 2019 :  21:31:55  Show Profile  Visit df's Homepage Send df a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Get canary, worked for miners.

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Colin123

United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 May 2019 :  23:07:52  Show Profile Send Colin123 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi,
I have just fitted a propex 2kw warm air blower to my Norman 23.
Works great but has firing problems when using butane but fine with propane.
Really easy to fit as well.
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philihun

United Kingdom
283 Posts

Posted - 07 May 2019 :  17:10:39  Show Profile Send philihun a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Go on i'll fall for it, you do change the Regulator over each time don't you.

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philihun

United Kingdom
283 Posts

Posted - 07 May 2019 :  17:18:44  Show Profile Send philihun a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Btw, iv'e got the same system fitted on my 27. Just back from a 2 week jaunt to Ripon, used daily in the morn at wake up time and about 2 hours in the evening. 60 watt solar panel kept this and the tv no probs via 2 x 110 batteries. Without the Propex i would be divorced, but i wont hold that against Propex.lol.

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