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trickyblue
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 Posted - 24 Apr 2018 : 08:45:13
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Well, I finally took the plunge after years of "what if?"
I collected my Norman 20 yesterday from the Norfolk Broads and towed it home to where I live (literally a 15 minute walk from where the Norman's were built!)
Although tolled for the season on the Broads, I don't think she will see the water again this year, the aim is to work on her this year and then take her back to the Broads. Loads of questions at the moment. Hopefully folks on here will be able to help. |
Edited by - trickyblue on 24 Apr 2018 08:48:51 |
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df
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 Apr 2018 : 10:29:31
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If it's in a usable condition and tolled I'd have left it there and used it for a while as you will change ideas once you've got used to how you use the space available.
Either way make sure you get out and enjoy it.
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stratford4528
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 Apr 2018 : 10:59:58
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| Listen to DF. It took me 5 years to totally refit my 32 and never had a holiday on it. Its parked on its trailer in my barn. And I don't know if I ever will get to use it before I have to sell it. |
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trickyblue
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Posted - 24 Apr 2018 : 12:06:53
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Yes I did consider keeping her there for this year, but with other holidays already booked for the year I didn't see that I'd get chance to use and with it being a good 5 hour drive to get there I wouldn't be able to get any jobs done either.
Definitely in useable condition though.
Has a 1999 Honda 4 stroke on at the moment, runs sweetly but it's only pull start. |
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df
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 Apr 2018 : 17:08:00
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At this time of the year it would be worth putting it on a local river so you can use it, have you asked the broads authority if you can get a refund on the toll? I know the official answer is no but they can be reasonable if you explain it's been sold and taken away so it's worth a call.
As a first boat I can almost guarantee you will use it differently to how you thought you would and a season's use will let you know exactly how, I did a couple of seasons on a hand pull only 2 stroke on a small norman before going leccy start.
I did my first sea trip on my RLM31 with the cockpit sides just an unfinished framework and polythene taped over the cabin windows (the glass was still in but they leaked)so using and enjoying while carrying out work is perfectly feasable.
Out of interest does it have a name on it? I'm on the broads so wonder if I know the boat.
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trickyblue
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Posted - 24 Apr 2018 : 17:23:07
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| Its currently called the Beano.It was at Wayford Bridge.Cant see the BA looking kindly on a toll refund as it was purchased by the previous owner.Have holidayed on lots of cruisers on the Broads and have a 13 doot Dory with a 15hp that will probably end up on the Norman. |
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cliveshep
Thailand
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Posted - 25 Apr 2018 : 03:43:26
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Originally posted by trickyblue
Its currently called the Beano.It was at Wayford Bridge.Cant see the BA looking kindly on a toll refund as it was purchased by the previous owner.Have holidayed on lots of cruisers on the Broads and have a 13 doot Dory with a 15hp that will probably end up on the Norman.
Ref the 15hp - ONLY if it is a long shaft!
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trickyblue
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Posted - 25 Apr 2018 : 06:21:23
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It is long shaft  |
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trickyblue
75 Posts |
Posted - 30 Apr 2018 : 17:48:31
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| Older than I thought, following advice from here I have found the marker scrawled on the GRP on the bows under the foredeck 8/72/20/213 |
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Margaret
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 May 2018 : 15:01:09
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Restorations always take longer than you think, I know from experience with cars. Our Norman 23 is on the Lancaster canal only 50 miles from where I live in Littleborough, we have had it nearly 2 years now , but it’s great having it close by as we can holiday on it and do improvements as we go along..
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trickyblue
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Posted - 01 May 2018 : 18:39:57
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Yes. To be honest Margaret its less of a restoration and more about getting things how I want them. You could carry on chucking money at it and getting it just so, but ultimately I have to have a cut off point. My attention at the moment is focused on tracing a leak in the front cabin. The boat is on land in a caravan storage compound so I know its not the hull!
The lining carpet and foam insulation is pulled back (hence I found her age) and it doesn't seem to be a deck fitting so I am suspecting front windows, or just condensation. Also despite the very recent BSS cert the 12v electrics are an absolute joke so I am completely redoing them. |
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Margaret
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 May 2018 : 06:26:50
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Our boat had a small leak around one of the front windows, the rubber it is set in was slightly perished The boat was built in 1982 so only to be expected, I ran some Captain Tollys creeping leak sealer between the glass and the seal, two years on and no more drips. This summer I intend to do the same around all the alloy frames where they are fitted to the hull, just as a precaution, saves having to take them all out. It’s amazing stuff , you don’t need a lot and it drys clear, silicone can be very untidy if you are not an expert with the gun.
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Margaret
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 May 2018 : 06:30:45
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Just out of interest the window glass usually has the date of manufacture in one of the corners., so you can date the boat from that.
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trickyblue
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Posted - 23 May 2018 : 09:54:07
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Well a busy few weeks has seen most of the 12v electrics re-done.
New switch panel at the helm, fuse box and negative bus bar, nav lights, horn etc.
It's scary how the cost of wiring and connectors soon adds up!
Bilge pump and float switch with a 3 way switch installed, this is the only circuit that's permanently live... thinking ahead for when the boat goes back to live in Norfolk!
Still waiting delivery on the LED strip lights for the cabin, but the wiring is in place ready.
Next I will be turning my attention to the water supply, I want a tank that can be filled through a deck fitting and a level gauge added. Proving difficult to source a suitable tank due to the limited height under the cockpit "lockers". I think I may have found one (Diablo smart tank) but it's right on the cusp height wise with the top plate and fittings added.
Anyone fitted a toilet and holding tank to a Norman 20?
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df
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 May 2018 : 15:49:24
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Most stick to a portapotti on boats that size due to lack of space for a decent size tank, saves the hassle and cost of pumpouts too (or fit a sea toilet and keep quiet about it.... 
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cliveshep
Thailand
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Posted - 23 May 2018 : 16:16:21
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You cannot sensibly fit a holding tank to a 20, get a PortaPotti. As for drinking water tanks get a Crewsaver one made to fit in the bow, it's a bladder, the filler can be a flush fitting in the foredeck, I've done that quite successfully in the past.
Measure the bow locker, do a sketch, show where the filler and outlet to the pump are to go and make sure you can run the outlet pipe to the sink via a pump usually located under the starboard berth. Then order your bladder. You'll want some of that re-cycled foam, the cheap dense one made of different coloured foam granules bonded together often used as packaging, to cushion against the end of the bunks. 2" Polystyrene will do at a pinch.
The water will weigh quite a bit but the weight will assist in steering, balance it by having all the heavy stuff in the stern.
Of course if you have an inboard/outdrive arrangement it will trim itself quite nicely.
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