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trickyblue

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Posted - 23 May 2018 :  16:45:53  Show Profile Send trickyblue a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Food for thought folks, thank you!
I thought the 20's were always nose down anyway?
Certainly its where all the bilge rainwater ends up anyway, that's where I have installed the bilge pump and float. Wouldn't the weight of the water in the bladder tank make it even more so?
The boat already has a porta potti but there is an absence of places to empty these types on the Norfolk Broads...do people generally just chuck it down a public lav?
I'm envisaging late night stealth walks along the riverbank to the toilets to empty it!
I can't get away with a sea toilet on the Broads, the BA would be on to it right away.
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df

United Kingdom
5994 Posts

Posted - 23 May 2018 :  18:23:30  Show Profile  Visit df's Homepage Send df a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
I can't get away with a sea toilet on the Broads, the BA would be on to it right away.

Lots do, more on the southern rivers than north, I get away with it as I'm sea going and go through yarmouth regularly but no-one has ever checked, you have to use a bit of common sense where you use them though, a still basin is a no-no for anything solid and use land side facilities where you can (same landside rule for pumpout or portapotti really).

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IanM

United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 May 2018 :  19:51:17  Show Profile Send IanM a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Never pass someone else's toilet without using it.

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cliveshep

Thailand
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Posted - 24 May 2018 :  15:57:55  Show Profile Send cliveshep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The 20's are nose down yes, the alternative is two tanks, one each side but that will take up storage space that is limited anyway!

I have done it a couple of times - the inboard/sterndrive option does trim the boat nicely plus if you get off the canals Normans can be driven quite quickly!




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trickyblue

75 Posts

Posted - 25 May 2018 :  15:59:01  Show Profile Send trickyblue a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ha, speed isn't an option...3, 4 and rarely 6 mph allowed on the Broads, plenty fast enough when you're enjoying the wildlife and scenery. Now that I've discovered the old Honda 9.9 outboard although not having electric start will give 6 amps charging output I will be sticking with that motor for now. I had planned on using the Tohatsu 15 from my dory but at least I wont have to shell out for another remote unit now
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trickyblue

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Posted - 24 Jul 2018 :  15:26:29  Show Profile Send trickyblue a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ok so I have fitted a water tank complete with gauge sender, opposite the helm under the crew seat and the Jabsco pump and strainer sit there too. I've added a deck filler and breather/overflow vent through a skin fitting and it seems to work pretty effectively.

The water level gauge is fitted above the toilet compartment door, and I have fitted a basic tap to replace the old push pump type that was there previously.

Boat now seems to be staying dry after I have resealed the front windows, probably wont last...but I will keep the sealer in the boat lol.

Still loads to do!
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trevork

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Posted - 25 Jul 2018 :  00:59:53  Show Profile  Visit trevork's Homepage Send trevork a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Good to hear of your progress, keep us informed, we love to see stuff like this.
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trickyblue

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Posted - 28 Jul 2018 :  09:57:17  Show Profile Send trickyblue a Private Message  Reply with Quote
One step forward...2 steps back!
I was attempting to finalise the 12 volt wiring yesterday and all that was left was to connect the charging output from the motor to the batteries.
I can not see the charging plug/socket anywhere on the engine.
I've downloaded an owners manual and read loads of stuff on various forums but there doesn't appear to be anything like that on my engine.
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df

United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 Jul 2018 :  10:37:39  Show Profile  Visit df's Homepage Send df a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What engine is it? Most charge through the main battery cables with the charging regulator wiring under the motor cowling.

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trickyblue

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Posted - 28 Jul 2018 :  13:24:56  Show Profile Send trickyblue a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Its a Honda 4 stroke BF 9.9hp, manual start only so no battery cables.
Everything I've read including the owners manual states that it has a 6 amp charging system fitted that can just be "plugged into" but I cant see any sign of it!
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df

United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 Jul 2018 :  13:53:25  Show Profile  Visit df's Homepage Send df a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is this any help?

Also see if you can find the regulator (8) under the hood and follow the wires to the plug (6+7)


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trickyblue

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Posted - 28 Jul 2018 :  23:21:45  Show Profile Send trickyblue a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks...those are the same diagrams Ive been looking at.

Definitely no plug/receptacle as shown.

Ill have another look tomorrow and try and trace wires from rectifier.

Thanks for your input, it is appreciated
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trickyblue

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Posted - 13 Aug 2018 :  16:59:49  Show Profile Send trickyblue a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The work continues...240v electrics completed, in accordance with the BSC regulations. Arctic cable, crimped ferrules on all the connections and clipped up conduit etc. Inlet is in the cockpit on the locker side under helm seat. Consumer unit mounted on bulkhead in toilet compartment. One single socket mounted directly above this and one double in the cabin. Had planned to have another weatherproof socket at the rear of the cockpit but as there are only 2 knockouts in the bottom of the consumer unit I decided against that. Cant for the life of me work out how to post pics otherwise I would.

Edited by - trickyblue on 13 Aug 2018 17:15:55
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trevork

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Posted - 14 Aug 2018 :  00:17:37  Show Profile  Visit trevork's Homepage Send trevork a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You either simply email me the pictures or follow the rather covoluted way of posting via here which requires you to have them posted on the web already on the likes of flickr.
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trickyblue

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Posted - 14 Aug 2018 :  19:29:46  Show Profile Send trickyblue a Private Message  Reply with Quote
https://imgur.com/a/aDIUCFx " target="_blank">= https://imgur.com/a/aDIUCFx

Not quite right but the link is clickable, showing the finished consumer unit in the toilet compartment.

Edited by - trickyblue on 14 Aug 2018 19:31:59
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