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df
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 17 Jan 2018 : 20:49:31
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If anyone is offered a tohatsu 2 stroke 4hp outboard please check numbers as I have had one nicked from my shed, model is M4C-3F9 serial number is 78016, it is silver/grey and has integral tank and a bolt in place of the trim pin.
It was nabbed probably over the xmas period as there was a spate of shed/garage break in around here but I have only just noticed it missing, also with a stihl MS181 chainsaw but I can't find where I wrote the serial number for that.
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cliveshep
Thailand
1324 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jan 2018 : 15:10:04
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Would the serial number for the Stihl be 678904356?
Oooops?
Errr - forget I asked, I'll see myself out...................Taxi!!!!
Outboards and expensive machines belong in the spare room or in an outbuilding attached to your house so you can hear the scrotes trying to break in.
Sorry to say it but a shed is no place for expensive kit - too easy to get in.
Brick-built, steel door, no window is the way to go these days Dave.
Finally living the dream!
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Wayfoot
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Jan 2018 : 12:42:00
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Not very sympathetic Clive.
Some of us don't have the privilege of secure outbuildings and have taken the decision to remove outboards from our boats for the winter to mitigate the risk of theft from the waters edge,myself included. Our sheds are the only alternative place to store and i'm sure that most if not all of us take as much precaution as possible to make sheds secure.This also allows us to carry out a winter service and prep the engine for the new season.
Unfortunately the world is infected with pond life who seek to steal our possessions.
Hopefully this engine is found/returned and the scumbag is locked up.
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stratford4528
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Jan 2018 : 19:51:32
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| A very simple alarm have been the solution. I use a motion senser connected to a 12 volt buzzer in the house which will even wake me at night |
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cliveshep
Thailand
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Posted - 20 Jan 2018 : 03:35:44
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Sympathetic - well I am actually but come on Wayfoot - modern feather-edge sheds can be ripped open with your fingers, all they do is keep the rain off.
Seriously, invest say £200 to build a lean-to shed big enough for the outboard only, or two outboards plus a gennie.
Make it thief-proof by building it in heavy 4 inch (100mm) Class A solid dense concrete blocks against the back wall of your house in 1:3 cement/sand mortar.
2 blocks deep x 5 blocks high set in 3:1 sand/cement mortar gives a side wall 900mm deep x 1.2m high so it follows that 20 blocks will build two walls. Build 2 walls 850mm overall apart. That will give 650mm wide internal - more than enough for any outboard.
Roof it with 3 layers of 50mm thick x 900 long paving slabs cemented together with 2:1 sand/cement mortar. That will make it far too heavy for any scrote to lift off. To make sure you can anchor 6mm thick "Bat" straps inside to the underside of the slabs and screwed/plugged to the walls.
Restrain the walls to the house with galvanised frame-cramps in the joints drilled/plugged/screwed to the house walls.
Get a metal door and frame made to fit, both from say 50mm x 50mm x 6 or 8mm RSA (angle iron to you!) Have a steel plate welded into the door angle, with a secure type locking bolt etc. I reckon you could build yourself dead easily for under £200. If you don't possess one you would need to hire or borrow or buy a 9 inch angle grinder.
9 inch Diamond blades to cut slabs and blocks are £15 for two free delivery on Ebay. I have cut hundreds of bricks and many concrete paving slabs and still only worn out one of these cheap blades so they are good value.
Cheapest 9 inch grinder on Ebay is a Hitachi (good make) at £69
Alternatively - cutting both sides (and snapping by a blow from a club hammer) with a 115mm grinder where blades are peanuts and the cheapest grinder is only £26.99 delivered on Ebay would be cheaper. A pack of 6 diamond cutting blades is only £6.95 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PACK-OF-6-VOCHE-115mm-4-5-DIAMOND-CUTTING-BLADES-DISCS-FOR-ANGLE-GRINDERS-/232414889698?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c10)
You can buy a 2 camera CCTV kit for around £200 delivered.
How helpful am I then?
Here we have a workshop with steel doors, we have the entire property surrounded with infra-red CCTV full 24/7 recording in colour with 4 cameras/channels, plus 4 dogs who don't tolerate strangers.
Our 3 generators, 2 outboards, two motor-bikes, and masses of workshop tooling, compressor and air-tools, mig welder, inverter welder, power tools including 1/2" router, power plane, 3 115mm and one 230mm angle grinders, power saw, jig saw, sds hammer drills, etc plus an 8-man inflatable are fairly safe. I'd rather spend a bit than lose the lot!
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Wayfoot
United Kingdom
109 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jan 2018 : 12:34:04
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So you heard it here folks. Everyone who owns an outboard should consider taking a course in building and DIY techniques before you consider bringing your beloved possessions home.
Its that simple as Clive states, whether you can lay a block, or not...this is the way to go.
Get real Clive, you may have the skills, not everyone else has, and in most cases would need to call in a tradesman who would no doubt want paying more that £200 to make this "state of the art" storeroom secure.
Oh and yes, i do have the background and skills to build something along the lines of what is described, i am fortunate to have gained these skills...not everyone is as fortunate.
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cliveshep
Thailand
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Posted - 23 Jan 2018 : 01:30:09
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I offered the advice to prevent loss to members Wayfoot, don't need trolling with your silly snide responses that ill-become you. That is out of order and an unnecessarily rude response.
What I described is simple to do, if it were not for the weight to lift most 4yr olds could build it because they are used to playing with building blocks and Lego and it is only a question of scale. Why? Do you think the adult members on here cannot do what a child can do?
I seriously doubt any member on here is so thick they cannot stack one block on another with a mortar joint between or measure distances with a tape measure.
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IanM
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 Jan 2018 : 06:43:21
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df
United Kingdom
5994 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jan 2018 : 10:24:51
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I was thinking electric fence and armed guards, maybe a wee minefield just to make sure.....  
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Wayfoot
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 Jan 2018 : 11:21:22
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Clive,You describe my debate as Trolling ?
Trolling is when someone initiates an arguement or by by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages on a subject.
In this case your opening line to Daves situation was "Would the serial number for the Stihl be 678904356".. this suggests you have the chainsaw in your possession and you know the number. If this isn't initiating a arguement, i don't know what is. That is why i responded to your comments and why this 'debate' is where it is...you created it.
I joined this forum to read like minded members experiences about their Normans, how they repair, renovate and other general topical subjects. The subject of outboard theft is serious and happens far too often for someone to joke about it, whether you thought it was a harmless comment or not, it was mis-timed in my opinion.
Take a look at post titled "honda 8hp" posted 21st July 2017 and the support given to the author, this is how we should react to fellow boaters, offering practical comments....i rest my case |
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trevork
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Posted - 23 Jan 2018 : 15:07:02
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Those that have been here a while know how reluctant I am to moderate or delete posts. But it has been known! I'm tempted to scrub both "combatants" posts but, initially, I will simply say cease!
Wayfoot, part of your post describes exactly why the forum is here and that is what I want to see.
Clive, you have proved your ability to wind folk up more than once. Give it a rest now and stick to the valuable boaty advice you regularly provide! |
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philihun
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 Jan 2018 : 16:41:50
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As i see it, the bloke who had his gear pinched ie Dave took Clives comment in the way it was intended. The rapport between them keeps this forum alive at times. Could we have a post watershed time like they do on the telly for consenting adults.
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trevork
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Posted - 23 Jan 2018 : 23:22:52
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| I wouldn't disagree with you Phil, its what followed the initial "spar" that I'm referring to. |
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