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RustyB

United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Oct 2016 :  18:46:23  Show Profile Send RustyB a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry if this topic has come up before, but I have just removed the original gas cooker in my Norman 24 which I am about to replace with a 12 inch mini log burner. I surrounded area with firewood and I am about to drill hole in the roof (near the window at the back) for the chimney. Anyone done this before got any tips?

Thanks

Russell

df

United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Oct 2016 :  19:01:13  Show Profile  Visit df's Homepage Send df a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You "surrounded the area in firewood" !! Doesn't firewood have a habit of burning?
I've never liked the idea of solid fuel stoves in narrowbeam grp boats as it's so hard to keep things at a safe distance, don't get me wrong I love woodburners and have a wood fire in my living room but wouldn't have one on a small boat.



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RustyB

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Posted - 05 Oct 2016 :  19:09:57  Show Profile Send RustyB a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Fire resistant wood and then a metal plate, but its only a gap of about 2 inches either side of the stove, not much.
I know what you mean about woodburner on small GRP boat but I am going to use firerope on chimney. At the moment I use one of them Kampa gas heaters which warm the boat up great but apparently can kill you if you don't open windows etc. So not sure which is the greater risk?

Russell
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mike

United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Oct 2016 :  10:03:53  Show Profile  Visit mike's Homepage Send mike a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi

Lots of regulations and recomendations for fitting fires in boats see BSS and SOLIFTEC.
carbon monoxide is just as big a danger as fire.

Bye
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RustyB

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Oct 2016 :  13:02:20  Show Profile Send RustyB a Private Message  Reply with Quote
toastie

Edited by - RustyB on 09 Oct 2016 10:22:20
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RustyB

United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Oct 2016 :  10:21:58  Show Profile Send RustyB a Private Message  Reply with Quote
well its done and I think we followed all the correct regulations and safety guidance. I had a lovely warm night last night, coal still burning at 7am.

Russell
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IanM

United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Oct 2016 :  12:44:10  Show Profile Send IanM a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Given how close it is to other stuff I'd be inclined to add some of those heatproof boards (Calcium Silicate or similar). I've seen a few pics of tiled fire surrounds where the plywood underneath the tiles has scorched through the tiles.
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Sal Garfi

United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Oct 2016 :  13:35:48  Show Profile Send Sal Garfi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RustyB

well its done and I think we followed all the correct regulations and safety guidance. I had a lovely warm night last night, coal still burning at 7am.




Can you post some pictures since I'm thinking of doing the same thing. Also which stove did you get, and can I ask how much the whole thing cost?

I have, however, been thinking of a charcoal wall mounted stove for my Norman 22.

Sal
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RustyB

United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Oct 2016 :  17:46:44  Show Profile Send RustyB a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes I will post some pictures when I get a chance.
The log burner was £240 from Midland Chandery (Braunston), was reduced from 350. It is only 12 inches wide. The flue was about 50 quid and other bits and bobs totalling about 80, like fire rope, fire board, metal plates for the surround. We took out the original gas cooker and extended it out 8 inches so the pipe would not be near the curtains. Then I paid a guy a few boats away from me on my mooring, Andy Plummer who fitted a log burner in his Norman 24 a couple of years ago to fit it for me while I watched lol. Obviously I paid for his services. It took him about 8 hours. Mates rates apply but still about £15 a hour approx? If you are in the Midlands area he will fit it for you if you dont fancy doing it yourself.

Russell
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RustyB

United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Oct 2016 :  17:50:14  Show Profile Send RustyB a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IanM

Given how close it is to other stuff I'd be inclined to add some of those heatproof boards (Calcium Silicate or similar). I've seen a few pics of tiled fire surrounds where the plywood underneath the tiles has scorched through the tiles.



We did ply wood, then on top of that fireboard (thick stuff), then a layer of metal sheet on top of that.

Russell
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Sal Garfi

United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 Oct 2016 :  10:52:17  Show Profile Send Sal Garfi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RustyB

Yes I will post some pictures when I get a chance.
The log burner was £240 from Midland Chandery (Braunston), was reduced from 350. It is only 12 inches wide. The flue was about 50 quid and other bits and bobs totalling about 80, like fire rope, fire board, metal plates for the surround. We took out the original gas cooker and extended it out 8 inches so the pipe would not be near the curtains. Then I paid a guy a few boats away from me on my mooring, Andy Plummer who fitted a log burner in his Norman 24 a couple of years ago to fit it for me while I watched lol. Obviously I paid for his services. It took him about 8 hours. Mates rates apply but still about £15 a hour approx? If you are in the Midlands area he will fit it for you if you dont fancy doing it yourself.

Russell



Price wise, this seems quite spot on, and I must admit I wouldn't mind to at least talk to someone who's done a stove in a Norman face to face and with the end result in front of us. I'm based at Sawley, so where are you and your neighbour?



Sal
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Florian

United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 Oct 2016 :  00:03:21  Show Profile Send Florian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Have you a current boat safety certificate? Best wishes, Florian
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RustyB

United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 Oct 2016 :  00:53:43  Show Profile Send RustyB a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Florian

Have you a current boat safety certificate? Best wishes, Florian
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florian


We followed the regulations, I feel alot safer with a log burner than i did having gas on the boat.

Russell
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RustyB

United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 Oct 2016 :  00:55:05  Show Profile Send RustyB a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sal Garfi

quote:
Originally posted by RustyB

Yes I will post some pictures when I get a chance.
The log burner was £240 from Midland Chandery (Braunston), was reduced from 350. It is only 12 inches wide. The flue was about 50 quid and other bits and bobs totalling about 80, like fire rope, fire board, metal plates for the surround. We took out the original gas cooker and extended it out 8 inches so the pipe would not be near the curtains. Then I paid a guy a few boats away from me on my mooring, Andy Plummer who fitted a log burner in his Norman 24 a couple of years ago to fit it for me while I watched lol. Obviously I paid for his services. It took him about 8 hours. Mates rates apply but still about £15 a hour approx? If you are in the Midlands area he will fit it for you if you dont fancy doing it yourself.

Russell



Price wise, this seems quite spot on, and I must admit I wouldn't mind to at least talk to someone who's done a stove in a Norman face to face and with the end result in front of us. I'm based at Sawley, so where are you and your neighbour?



Sal



Sawley is near us, we are in leicestershire

Russell
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philihun

United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 Oct 2016 :  13:56:51  Show Profile Send philihun a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If you are replacing the Gas Cooker with a Mini Log Burner. Does that mean you will be eating mini logs for breakfast,dinner and tea. Could get boring methinks.


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df

United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 Oct 2016 :  15:06:27  Show Profile  Visit df's Homepage Send df a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Whatever you eat always ends up as a log anyway....


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