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fitvit
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 04 Apr 2016 : 06:07:13
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The previous owner decided they wanted a gold boat!A friend of hers started spray painting it! Any advice on how to turn it back into a white boat?
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Landor
United Kingdom
46 Posts |
Posted - 04 Apr 2016 : 07:26:19
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Looks like you have a lot of sanding to do  |
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df
United Kingdom
5994 Posts |
Posted - 04 Apr 2016 : 10:06:04
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You can get grp friendly paint stripper, don't use standard nitromors though.
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Deano
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Apr 2016 : 10:36:07
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Ist job. Find the friend of the previous owner and slap him!!
2nd job, Choose if you are going to try to strip it off or cover it with white paint.
Issues... No one has ever striped the paint off a painted boat successfully back to GRP.... not that I have seen .... many have started.........
Painting has to be done out of the water and under cover..... prep is the key.....then more prep... A good finish can be achieved with the right paint and a roller. Believe me... I have done it. It's not as cheap as you think it will be either!!!
Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse.
Freeman 32 "Liberty"
See the photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/54758027@N00/ |
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fitvit
United Kingdom
94 Posts |
Posted - 04 Apr 2016 : 13:14:07
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Thanks guys. The side you can see is quite thin, but its really rather thick on the other side. I'm going to have a go at stripping it if I can get hold of some GRP friendly stripper.(off to a chandlery shop today
This is my first boat, so forgive the dumb questions.
Would I then be able to put a gel coat straight ontop of it if I can get rid of the hideous gold paint? If I can't get rid of the gold paint do I need to sand it down until the gold has all gone then paint white, or am I just looking at scuffing it enough to give the new paint some purchase?
Cheers Joanne.
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df
United Kingdom
5994 Posts |
Posted - 04 Apr 2016 : 13:48:34
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I'd try to strip back down to gelcoat then see what state it's in, if you can get away without painting it makes life easier in the long run.
It won't be gelcoat you put back on, thats usually the first coat to go on when the boat is in the mould and the grp goes on behind it.
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Deano
United Kingdom
1843 Posts |
Posted - 04 Apr 2016 : 16:49:38
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With paint there are 2 main choices.
2-Pack and traditional.
2 pack is a chemical cure, you mix the two parts together and they 'go off'. This leaves a very strong almost like gel coat finish. It can be a little more tricky to apply, but with a roller and brush, not beyond DIY. You can't spray it - it will kill you.
2-pack is super strong and long lasting...... BUT cannot be applied over the top of traditional paint.... it will melt the traditional paint and it will all bubble up and fall off!! It is also more difficult to touch in or repair scratches later.
Traditional - one pack - normal paint is easy to apply and will go over almost any sound paint surface. Again apply with a roller and tip off with a brush if needs be. The finish is not as durable as 2-pack and will require a repaint in anything from 6 years.
2-pack will cost significantly more, but you can get away with slightly less and it will last longer. You will need a matching undercoat, for rather system, so don't forget to factor that in to the costs.
There is a free leaflet available from International Paints.... gives all the lowdown and lots of very good information... I suggest you get hold of a copy...
Dilunet is a good brand of GRP friendly stripper, but it will cost you loads to do a whole boat. It works VERY slow when cold..... days, not hours...... I left some for a week once and still had to do another coat. There are other brands... look for caustic based.. that is USUALLY GRP friendly.
It is possible to apply new gel coat to the outside...... I know a few people that have done it..... trust me you don't want to go down that route unless you RELLY enjoy sanding .... and have a few WEEKS spare to do it!!!
Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse.
Freeman 32 "Liberty"
See the photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/54758027@N00/ |
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Deano
United Kingdom
1843 Posts |
Posted - 04 Apr 2016 : 16:52:10
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After all that post......
I would suggest you have a go at stripping a bit... see how it goes.... there is quite a lot of scope for compounding and polishing GRP.... it's not paint.
If stripping is a no go.... sand back using an orbital sander and after removing deck fittings ect... go for a traditional paint... don't forget the undercoat.
Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse.
Freeman 32 "Liberty"
See the photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/54758027@N00/ |
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Andywood
United Kingdom
42 Posts |
Posted - 04 Apr 2016 : 19:50:58
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| Gold? More neon yellow. Best of luck! |
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IanM
United Kingdom
2238 Posts |
Posted - 04 Apr 2016 : 20:16:49
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Well I think it's lovely. And unique.
You should just buy some more gold paint and finish the job. Perhaps use some of that Christmas glittery gold paint for added sparkle.
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fitvit
United Kingdom
94 Posts |
Posted - 04 Apr 2016 : 21:19:17
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Thanks fellas, I hadn't really thought of painting it any other colour but white until today when I saw a few boats of various colours. Maybe painting the roof a darker colour would be easier? (Not keen on the gold, but could find a different one Im sure)
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fitvit
United Kingdom
94 Posts |
Posted - 04 Apr 2016 : 21:34:11
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This is the other side of the boat eeeeekkkkkkk.
Someone who knows the boats history told me that the gel coat had been burnt off by the same person, before they starting to spray it gold.
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fitvit
United Kingdom
94 Posts |
Posted - 04 Apr 2016 : 21:45:05
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I think I'm leaning more towards following Deano and DF's advice of trying to strip it and if thats too difficult sanding it down, undercoat then using the traditional one pack paint. I'm gonna have a go at doing it myself. Wish me luck. I'll put the 'after' photos up 
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IanM
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Apr 2016 : 22:34:32
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I was joking about continuing the gold...
Mind you, when you see the price of dilunet you might develop a liking for the current paintwork.
The good news is that anyone who made such a poor attempt at spraying is unlikely to have primed or even cleaned the grp so some of the paint might come off with a bit of enthusiastic scrubbing or light abrasion.
I can understand someone wanting to be a bit different when it comes to painting a boat but not how it can be such a dreadful attempt. Under the influence maybe? |
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Andywood
United Kingdom
42 Posts |
Posted - 05 Apr 2016 : 07:47:15
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Are my eyes deceiving me or did they spray the fenders too? |
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df
United Kingdom
5994 Posts |
Posted - 05 Apr 2016 : 08:08:53
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Strippit is what I think the stuff was called when I paint stripped my old norman 25, that came out not too bad (apart from the bits I didn't finish), it was a lot cheaper than dilunet.
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Best way to tidy up the worst paint job ever!
