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Sonny

United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Jan 2016 :  22:07:08  Show Profile Send Sonny a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi guys
Ive just had a pre survey check on my 26ft cabin cruiser and the keel has worn through in places through old age and/or shallow mooring.
The advice I have been given is that i need to have the old fifreglass skin and rotten wood removed a new keel making and fitting.
I have been quoted around £1500 to £2000 for this work to be carried out, do you guys have any idea if this is a reasonable fee?
Any advuce would be appreciated #128522;

df

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Jan 2016 :  08:05:57  Show Profile  Visit df's Homepage Send df a Private Message  Reply with Quote
To have it done properly I would imagine thats about right, where are you looking to get it done?



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Deano

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Jan 2016 :  18:34:18  Show Profile  Visit Deano's Homepage Send Deano a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That sounds reasonable when you consider materials, labour and VAT.


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Sonny

United Kingdom
191 Posts

Posted - 08 Jan 2016 :  21:23:00  Show Profile Send Sonny a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Dave Ive got the survey being done at buckden and they have a contractor who will carry out the repair for me there.
Its already out for the winter so makes sense to have the repair carried out at the same place and time and I remember seeing fibre glass repairs done there a couple of years ago and they looked substantial. Next problem is to clear some of the river bed on my mooring so it doesn't happen again.
Thanks for your and Deano's opinion as I had to get some idea of price as ive never had this kind of work done before
Happy new year to both of you #128522;
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stratford4528

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Jan 2016 :  22:44:19  Show Profile Send stratford4528 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Its quite a lot to me. I would ask for a breakdown IE what timber are they using for the keel. how many layers of mat are they putting back etc. Also see if a steel protection strip could be added.
May be it sounds a lot to me because its a job I would do myself.
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df

United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Jan 2016 :  11:00:24  Show Profile  Visit df's Homepage Send df a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I wouldn't have thought just rubbing on a mooring would do that to a keel, dragging against lock floors/cills maybe, have you seen the damage for yourself?

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Also see if a steel protection strip could be added.

Or even just a sacrificial wooden strip that can be replaced easily and cheaply every few years, as long as the fixings don't allow water into the layup of the proper keel.


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Also see if a steel protection strip could be added.

Edited by - df on 09 Jan 2016 12:31:43
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Sonny

United Kingdom
191 Posts

Posted - 10 Jan 2016 :  11:04:25  Show Profile Send Sonny a Private Message  Reply with Quote
the river bed of our mooring is gravel but also the boat was built between 1955 and 1965 so is getting on a bit and it was a test-bed for Perkins diesel for the early part of its life so who knows what it has been through!!
the rear end is steel covered and I shall ask about extending this over the full length of the keel.
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IanM

United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Jan 2016 :  22:49:35  Show Profile Send IanM a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That seems like a lot of money to me.

Suggest you seek a second opinion and, much as it may pain you, have a good hard think about the value of the boat before you spend that kind of money on it.
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jud

United Kingdom
113 Posts

Posted - 11 Jan 2016 :  10:29:38  Show Profile Send jud a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If it was mine I'd be thinking, if the keel's gone, the rest of the boat's not gonna be far behind it, i.e. osmosis, rib and transom rot,etc.(fingers crossed). Watch the weight with the steel!
Only paid £3000 for my 23 including the trailer and outboard, and as much as we love her I wouldn't chuck another 2K in all at once.
Jud.
p.s. I was born in '56, like some boats, it kind of puts it into perspective, eh!

Edited by - jud on 11 Jan 2016 10:37:40
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Sonny

United Kingdom
191 Posts

Posted - 11 Jan 2016 :  21:33:51  Show Profile Send Sonny a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As she came free when we bought the mooring I am not so much worried about the money and the surveyor has already said the hull seems very sound for it's age.my main concern is from preventing it happening again.
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