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Binker
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 09 Jan 2015 : 21:03:17
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Hello All,
First timer here (be gentle haha). Based in West Yorkshire and looking around at affordable first purchases to get on the water with the kids (sharing the cost with another family) and get learning about being on the water.
The Norman looks to be a bit of a trooper and I can see why there's an appreciation soc. We're looking at something big enough to sleep 4 + dog max so I guess we're looking at the 23? Very exciting looking for boats but also trying to figure out the sequencing of insurance mooring etc.
Anyway - Hi and looking forward to learning loads 
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cliveshep
Thailand
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Posted - 10 Jan 2015 : 08:26:07
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Boats are easy to buy, getting a mooring can be harder and you don't want to be the proud owner of a boat with nowhere to park it.
So find a (secure) home for it first then go find it.
Once you know what you want, and have the deal agreed, then get the insurance before you do anything else because if you bump somthing heading for your home mooring - and it is likely with you being inexperienced - you'll need insurence if the something you bump is expensive.
And of course, buying with a licence in force for the waterway you will stay on is good because if not you'll need a BSS as well as insurance before you can licence.
Good luck!
The cost of boating is insignificant compared to costs of a young wife and two teenage kids! |
Edited by - cliveshep on 10 Jan 2015 08:29:22 |
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Deano
United Kingdom
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Binker
United Kingdom
39 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jan 2015 : 15:17:22
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Update; boat purchased today! Norman 23 . River licence in place til June this year, boat safety in place til 2018 (i think)
It's on it's current home mooring til Feruary so I have a little time to try for my favoured spot.
It does have to be moved but that's in hand and we're getting some unexpected free professional help and advice which is a bonus.
We've been told the boat has a transferrable 3rd party insurance but we'll be checking that out first I can assure you.
This was a purchase with old friends to get us on the water (but not at the same time as we both have fairly young families haha) I haven't seen it in the flesh yet but our friends have more experience than us and they're happy.
Looking forward to nailing the mooring situation in West Yorkshire, then I think I'll be able to get excited. Thanks for all the excellent advice people.
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df
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 Jan 2015 : 17:42:22
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Nice one, enjoy it! And welcome to the nuthouse that is NBAS.
try quotes from craft-insure (mention this site as they help Trevor towards costs) and GJW direct (quote policy number 170856 Leo Magill and I'll get a £20 kickback and buy you a pint if we meet).
I've had claims with both and they've both been very good about dealing with them and prompt payers, gjw were a lot cheaper for me when I went up in value and coastal, and you get to speak to a brummie not an indian in mumbai called Kevin(insert appropriate accent).
I've never heard of an insurance that can be transferred across owners so beware on that score.
Main thing is to use it whenever possible and enjoy, if it doesn't handle right try more practice and beer before going down the ballast line.
NBAS--The communal colostomy bag of the boating community.
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IanM
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 Jan 2015 : 06:57:06
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Welcome matey.
All of the above, really. Sleeping 4 plus a dog on a 23 is possible but will be, erm cozy. |
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Deano
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 Jan 2015 : 22:25:39
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2 Adults and 2 kids presumably........ not too bad. (depending on how big the kids are I suppose!)
Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse.
Freeman 32 "Liberty"
See the photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/54758027@N00/ |
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Binker
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 Jan 2015 : 08:47:12
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Hopefully securing a mooring in west yorkshire today so wish me luck.
I hear what you guys are saying about space. The other family have the dog but their kids are smaller. My hoofing great lads though are another matter entirely! I think I'm going to have to put a small mod in to accommodate four properly. I'm hoping a simple ply insert or the like will widen the bed at the table while still leaving a walkway.
As it is if our lads take to it, and they seem pretty enthusiastic at the moment, then I can see us going bigger in a season or two.
On a slightly different tack, I know a lot of people just get on the water and hope for the best but I'm hoping that If I can get this mooring I can persuade someone to teach me the basics before I go solo. Or even do a small session of intro training. What do you guys think?
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trevork
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Posted - 13 Jan 2015 : 12:19:11
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There are various course around but they are not cheap and tend to be aimed at the rag and stick brigade or the big gin palaces. Much more fun to learn yourself via using the boat and asking questions of fellow boaters and moorers. Most are very ready to help.
What sort of motor does the boat have?
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Binker
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Jan 2015 : 17:59:00
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I think I''l take your advice on asking the other boaters and learning that way. Motor is a 15hp Honda. Someone who knows said it looked like an 80's model.
Mooring is secured in Wakefiled - just got to get the friends we bought with to transport - oh, and get it in the water. Slipways are pretty scarce on the Calder and Hebble.
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trevork
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Posted - 17 Jan 2015 : 23:59:08
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Binker
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Jan 2015 : 10:03:56
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We'll be at Stanley Ferry but looking at Brighouse Basin as it's closer to home.
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Binker
United Kingdom
39 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jan 2015 : 10:48:41
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The slipway is out of action at Stanley Ferry. Do you know of any close to SF? The closest I can see Sowerby and have no idea how long that will take to travel.
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trevork
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Posted - 18 Jan 2015 : 12:29:05
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Brian at Shepley Bridge would likely be able to get you into the water. He has a yard crane which should be able to handle a boat your size. Handy for Brighouse as well. Have a natter with him but not on a Monday! I'm also fairly sure that there is a slipway at Savilletown Basin in Dewsbury. on the Dewsbury Arms of the C & H.
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Binker
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Jan 2015 : 18:25:37
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Having talked to a couple of people, the slipway at Dewsbury is now kitted with a steel frame and hauling system to take the steel boats out of the water.
Is Shepley further than Sowerby? See, I know nowt me 
I took a mooring at Wakey to wait for something the right size to come up at Brig. The chap there mentioned that Wakefield Sea Cadets might have access to slipway and be willing for a small donation to allow access.
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trevork
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Posted - 18 Jan 2015 : 22:16:25
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| I know the slip that they are talking about and I thought it was public. However, it looks very steep and the concrete surface appears to "run out" just below the water level! Shepley Bridge is Mirfield and only about 30 minutes run from Dewsbury. |
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