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mollyjess
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 22 Oct 2012 : 17:04:11
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Our first winter approaches with the Norman 20 on the Mon and Brec.
I wonder who out there brings their boat home for the winter??
We live near Lampeter, 50 miles from the mooring. We do have a pretty good De Graaff trailer ...came with the boat. We have a Volvo V70 2.4 petrol...only 2 wheel drive though (front). The Book says max. towing weight 1600Kg. How much does a Norman 20 (lightly laden) plus a single axle Graaff trailer weigh, do you think?? Probably within limits? .. No serious hills on the journey home. ....But I am concerned about pulling it out of the water. A fairly short steepish slip.... with a front 2 wheel drive ...m m m m..Anyone done it? What about pulling the trailer/boat using a short rope thus allowing the car to pull at the TOP of the slip where it's nice and level. Does that help do you know? I've now got the tarp problem sorted, thanks to your help, on another thread. We like the idea of the boat at home for a few weeks (tidy the boat, do little jobs, clean/ service the outboard/cables etc.etc ..) If it's worth the hassle? I would really appreciate to hear the benefit of your experience..or just your thoughts. Thanks again. |
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Deano
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 Oct 2012 : 17:15:15
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Well worth the hassle. You can do lots of those jobs that are just not possible when 100's of miles away or on the water.
We used to pull a large rowing boat (20' solidly built) up a very steep cobbled slip with a transit van. Just use a rope to keep the vehicle on the flat. Take it steady and you will have no problem. Just watch the jockey wheel can take it, or lower it and fix a wooden skid under the tow hitch.
You will also be able to protect it from the weather better.
Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse.
Freeman 30 "Silver Gem"
See the photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/54758027@N00/ |
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Knighty
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 Oct 2012 : 19:06:42
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My 20 was slipped out last week and spends the winter on my drive. I have a 4wd so no problems but i have to get the rear of the motor well in the water. Think you might struggle pulling it up with a rope as retrieving if it's anything like my bunked trailer it sometimes doesn't sit right the first pull out so it's back in again to straighten her up a bit. Also that's a lot of weight with the trailer to pull with a rope up a slipway so make sure it's well up to the weight it needs to take on, think the 20 is about 870kg so with outboard, stuff on board and trailer i would think you are looking at 1100kg or so.
I'm pretty lucky as marina is about 2 miles from my home so it's just a steady trip home to the drive, hardest bit is my lousy reversing between two large conifers at end of drive, usually end up with chunks hanging out and branches all over the boat  |
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df
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 Oct 2012 : 20:20:40
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Use a length of scaffold tube with a tow ball one end and a hitch the other, weld on a set of sturdy jockey wheels and the car will be well away from the slope.
As Deano says so much easier to work on at home.
NBAS--The communal colostomy bag of the boating community.
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stratford4528
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 Oct 2012 : 22:36:10
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| Is that the only slip on the Brecon. I am hoping to put my 32 on there next year.It sounds to small for my boat.. |
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james12345
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 Oct 2012 : 11:58:19
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Hi MollyJess - I slip my Norman 20 on a single axle trailer here:
(for those that know it, it's the slipway nehind windsor Leisure Centre)
I use my Renault Megane 1.5 diesel, front wheel drive, no extension bars, etc, rear wheels *just* touching the waterline.
I can get the boat in and out just fine with a little clutch slip to save any wheel spin, so with your Volvo you should have no problems. That said, I always try to be on a dry area of slipway, so it will most likely depend on your slip. |
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mollyjess
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 Oct 2012 : 16:35:32
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| Really grateful to all replies. Thanks Deano and Knightly - I would like to bring it home. Stratford4528, we are at Cambrian Cruisers Marina near the Brecon end of the Canal. But the public slipway near us is at Pencelli - a few miles down from Brecon. I think it's a reasonable slip. I saw a decent sized cruiser being pulled out recently - not sure if it was a 32, but certainly a fare bit bigger tnan my 20! df, good 'scaffold' idea especially if this becomes a regular thing?? James12345 - yes, good advice and thanks for pic. |
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mollyjess
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 Oct 2012 : 16:56:27
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| Hello again, Stratford 4528. Thinking again about that public slipway at Pencelli on the Mon. and Brec., it is fairly steep and enters the canal at an angle. I've only cruised past it, never used it, so you would need to check it out first...for a 32?? Sorry I can't be more specific. |
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merlin
United Kingdom
400 Posts |
Posted - 23 Oct 2012 : 19:27:25
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word of warning when using a long rope
if using a two wheel traier make sure the boat is well on
even when it is it may be back heavy causing the tow hitch on the trailer to shoot upwards and damage the stern and the outboard
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Deano
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 Oct 2012 : 18:17:59
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I slipped my Freeman 22 and when it went on the trailer there was no water or fuel on board. I trailed it to Norfolk, filling up in Wroxham at the Shell garage before going to the slip. I was amazed when I unhooked it of the car and the tow hitch went skywards!!!!
The other thing to watch on a steep slip is that the boat will slide off the trailer unexpectedly backwards when launching. This happened in Brundal on another trip to the Broads. The drill always was for the wife to drive the trailer into the water with me on the boat and when the boat floated, just reverse off. This had always worked previously as the slips we had used were almost flat. The on in Brundal is quite steep, I was launched from the trailer like a lifeboat. Thankfully the engine started first time and nothing was damaged other than my ego!!
Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse.
Freeman 30 "Silver Gem"
See the photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/54758027@N00/ |
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tigtog
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 Nov 2012 : 20:53:21
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| i use to use a volvo v70 estate p reg petrol to put the boat in the water, wheels span a bit on the shingle, am using a pajero at the moment. the volvo pulled the boat great on the roads.as has been said so much easier to do the work on your drive. |
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Bring it home but..Will it pull it out the water?!
