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RonandZena

United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Jul 2012 :  11:12:18  Show Profile Send RonandZena a Private Message  Reply with Quote
We have just purchased our first boat a norman 23ft 1979. It needs abit of work doing it, firstly to be made water tight. We have leaking windows and a leaking fibreglass hatch, with all the wood surround totally rotten. We need some advise as to where to get stuff, ie of the internet or local, we are in Lancashire.Are all the hatches the same on normans or different sizes?

Any help would be appreciated. thank you

Lester Mayo

United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Jul 2012 :  12:52:27  Show Profile Send Lester Mayo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
All the seals are available from Seals direct. Check the chanell drains are clear on the window but I would think the seals are gone to be honest.
You can overhaul them yourself but they have to be taken of the boat,split the frame in half by undoing the screws (these will be rusted in so you will have to drill them out 3mm drill) 2 each side and 1 on the window bar. Fit new S/S self tappers, short ones as you cant have them going into the chanel more than 2-3mm
http://www.sealsdirect.co.uk/

If your wood surround needs replacing then use hardwood such as sapelle bedded on butyl seal/sealant.

Where in Lancs are you?





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trevork

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Posted - 05 Jul 2012 :  13:16:41  Show Profile  Visit trevork's Homepage Send trevork a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If you don't fancy doing the windows yourself, a while ago, at least a couple of folk had great service from the RAC Plant Division mobile window fixers at a good price. After all, boat window fixings can be similar to those in vans. May be worth a try.
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RonandZena

United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Jul 2012 :  18:03:26  Show Profile Send RonandZena a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for replying, you lost me when you said there was screws in the window, Anyway we will have a look and see.We are in Carnforth, any tips most appreciated.
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Lester Mayo

United Kingdom
289 Posts

Posted - 06 Jul 2012 :  21:25:02  Show Profile Send Lester Mayo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
When you get the frame out you will see where the frames join, two screws either side and one either side on the window bar.
You will need flat flocked seal for sure. You may geat away with the fixed window seal.

Carnforth is a bit far for me from manchester otherwise I would have had a visit.





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merlin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Jul 2012 :  10:24:58  Show Profile  Visit merlin's Homepage Send merlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
if you need the angle inserts that hold the window sections to-gether
you can buy them here
http://www.caldwellswindows.co.uk/accessories.html




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RonandZena

United Kingdom
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Posted - 14 Jul 2012 :  12:21:40  Show Profile Send RonandZena a Private Message  Reply with Quote
thanks for the info les, but what about the small windows, have no idea, do you just get a screw driver and split the seal off and the window will come out with it?? and getting them back in, told you i had no idea!!
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Lester Mayo

United Kingdom
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Posted - 14 Jul 2012 :  13:22:27  Show Profile Send Lester Mayo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The ones with just the rubber (claytonrite) remove the silver filler from the rubber, this is a diamond shape and expands the rubber into the frame and glass. You can then remove the glass/perspex.
Fit with new filler strip.
To fit the windows back you will need the tool you cant do it without.WD40 helps with getting the filler strip in. http://www.caldwellswindows.co.uk/claytonritetool.html

I warn you now they are a pig to do.





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RonandZena

United Kingdom
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Posted - 14 Jul 2012 :  14:39:51  Show Profile Send RonandZena a Private Message  Reply with Quote
does anyone know anyone near this area(carnforth/lancaster) that does refit the seals on windows at a decent price?
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Lester Mayo

United Kingdom
289 Posts

Posted - 14 Jul 2012 :  16:07:42  Show Profile Send Lester Mayo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As Trevor said you could try RAC Plant Division or give Kellett a ring see if they know anyone they are very helpfull.

http://www.kellettwindows.co.uk/





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