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Wayfoot
United Kingdom
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wisdom
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 17 Jan 2012 : 12:45:46
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| The correct way is for the chain and warp to drop into a purpose built locker which is sealed from the cabin but has a simple drain overboard . |
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df
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Jan 2012 : 17:27:59
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If it goes straight into the cabin you will get rain in from it, my rlm didn't have a drain in the chain locker originally and it was nearly full when I removed the cover, I recon it was getting into the cabin, I drilled a small hole to outside.
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Knighty
United Kingdom
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Wayfoot
United Kingdom
109 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jan 2012 : 20:03:24
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If anyone has any photo's of their 'locker' i would be interested.
Thanks for the replies...keep em coming |
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cliveshep
Thailand
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Posted - 19 Jan 2012 : 22:58:51
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What you need is to create a chain locker, accessible from the inside to clean out the inevitable muck that a wet chain is going to bring aboard, with a drain hole to outside so it doesn't fill up with water.
Ideally construct a pyramid under the hawse pipe to make the chain flake down properly - chain is notorious for tangling itself - and also provide a solid anchorage for the end of the chain so dropping the anchor does not allow the whole lot to head for the deep six.
The anchorage should be strong enough to hold the boat at anchor in case any deck anchorage comes adrift.
Glass the whole lot in if possible to make it reasonably water and rot proof inside and have a removable or hinged door for access.
I've done you a sketch to illustrate what I mean. One thing about Norman 20's is that they have a massive long vee berth and a raking bow so you have got plenty of unusable space to do this.
Edit: You will need a chain grab hook and a loop of rope spliced onto it to drop over the deck bollard to hold your chain once the desired scope is run out. You cannot wrap chain around a deck bollard. See here for chain hooks - one link just slips into the hook jaws.http://marinestore.co.uk/Merchant2/merchant.mvc? Put Product Code: PBED-102706 into the search box for a 6mm grab hook.
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Edited by - cliveshep on 19 Jan 2012 23:11:47 |
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Page
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 Jan 2012 : 09:57:08
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Why not coil the anchor rope and chain into a bucket, lay the anchor on top or by the side, store it in an accessible place within the boat and, when required, or when on a tidal waterway as a precaution, tie the anchor rope to the forward cleat, lay the anchor on the forward deck and secure the bucket to the rail. In the event of an emergency cast the anchor overboard and the rope will feed from the bucket!
Kind regards
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grabman
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 Jan 2012 : 21:35:03
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| i made a canvas bucket with a grommet in the bottom with the rope eye coming out to secure to cleat. rope is coiled inside with chain on top connected to anchor. when not needed is stowed away.a posher version of the plastic bucket. |
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df
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21 Jan 2012 : 00:49:21
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Can I just add that an anchor isn't worth having unless the first 5 metres is chain not rope( a bit less for inland), all the anchor does is dig in to the bottom, it needs some weight to lay it flat enough to stay there, if it's all rope any pull will trip it straight out of the bottom and you'd be better off with a mudweight.
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cliveshep
Thailand
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Posted - 21 Jan 2012 : 10:21:41
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I was sort of making an assumption that the OP was going to be using all chain?
Feeding rope down a chain-pipe? Hmmmm - Good Game, Good Game!!!!!
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Peter Walker
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21 Jan 2012 : 12:18:54
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These ideas look good but I would add one point.
For safety reasons it is often considered wise to tie the end of the chain (the bitter end) with a small piece of rope onto the ring bolt. It you don't do this then one day you may have an anchor that is stuck in the sea bed and a shackle that is rusted-up and stuck too. In such an emergency rope can be cut with a knife, but freeing a rusted shackle, head down in an anchor locker in deteriorating weather (or in the path of a Ferry when you realise that you anchored in the fog in the wrong place!) is no joke!
It's just a thought
Norman 22 on the river Avon, Warwickshire |
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df
United Kingdom
5994 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jan 2012 : 13:42:02
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That is how mine is secured for exactly those reasons.
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Deano
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21 Jan 2012 : 14:29:50
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Mine has a length of rope on the end so it can be cut on deck. I fancy that being head down in an anchor locker is not somewhere I would ever want to be when at sea. Even if only to cut a rope.
Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse.
Freeman 30 "Silver Gem"
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grabman
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 Jan 2012 : 20:37:04
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| the good thing about the bucket system is it wont de/value your boat when you come to sell,some people like a boat to be original.4xdepth of water you are anchoring is the scope of chain youd normally use.i,ve always manageged with chain and rope .horses for courses i suppose.incidentally the 200ton boat i work on has gone to the work boat code instead of mca ship code.the only thing we had to do was add a 2nd stockless anhchor with rode made up out of chain and rope?and work all round the uk coast? |
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ANCHOR CHAIN STORAGE
