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dnme

Ireland
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Posted - 24 Jul 2011 :  22:31:22  Show Profile Send dnme a Private Message  Reply with Quote
When it comes to laying my new floor, what's the norm? Will I lay the floor and build my cabinets / seats on top of it or visa versa? why?

Also, I am thinking of building a sealed floor as in screwing it down and epoxying it and filleting the edges etc. Perhaps filling the gap underneath with foam. The Norman 17 has no bilge, just a flat floor with 1-2" atringers so not even room for a bilge pump. What do you think?

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cliveshep

Thailand
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Posted - 25 Jul 2011 :  05:54:24  Show Profile Send cliveshep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
FF - furniture first. Always with small boats.

Then floor panels in what is left that should to be removable.

Nothing stops you laying Celotex or Kingspan under floor panels except possible loss of headroom.

If you attempt to seal the floor water will always find it's way in from somewhere and will cause rot.


The cost of boating is insignificant compared to costs of a young wife and two teenage kids!

Edited by - cliveshep on 25 Jul 2011 06:00:37
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dnme

Ireland
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Posted - 25 Jul 2011 :  13:05:55  Show Profile Send dnme a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks Clive, I thought I read the FF somewhere alright but couldn't remember why. Can you tell me why?

It just seems to me that I could put in a floor and then have a nice level surface onto which I can build cupboards, cabinets etc. If the floor takes up 6" height, I can just subtract 6" from cabinet no?
Also if I need to retain access to subfloor, I can cut an openable trapdoor in the floor no?

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cliveshep

Thailand
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Posted - 25 Jul 2011 :  21:02:59  Show Profile Send cliveshep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You do like to make life hard for yourself! If you want a floor inside a cupboard - have a loose piece of ply inside it with a 20mm "finger" hole to lift it out should the need arise.

Trust me, if the need ever arises it will possess some urgency! You won't be wanting to unscrew furniture and cut away mastic of filler on floor boards and even on bigger craft might not have that much time if you ram a stake or rock on the bottom and hole the hull.

There is usually more than one reason for doing things the way we do proven over many years.


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dnme

Ireland
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Posted - 26 Jul 2011 :  00:59:19  Show Profile Send dnme a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ok, so the answert to why, seems to be that FF and then floor makes it easier to access to subfloor in watery situations. Fair enough I'll tag along :)

Some updates for anyone interested
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coJXLdrbvm4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THJLytRiRpo


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stratford4528

United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 Jul 2011 :  06:56:54  Show Profile Send stratford4528 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If you go to Norman register 3 near the bottom on the left look for Coelbren drifter you will see how I am fitting my 32 The chipboard is just temporary it will be lifted out and Proper floor boards fitted loose for easy removable. The timber I am using is 100% Ceder
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