This page is a legacy from the original webmaster, 3 pages have been merged so it's rather long.
It will not be getting anything added, please use the new Norman Register if you would like to add your boat to the site.
I'm getting so many pictures that the page is taking an age to load so I have thumb nailed all of them. Just click on them for the full image.
is from Dave and show's his Norman, "Gypsey", on the slip at Upton on
Severn. As you see she now has a (wooden) hard top to replace the pram hood. Transforms the look don't you think?
And this is Rogers Norman Conquest 23 with a centre cockpit. He's looking for Norman bits as are we all. So any suggestions as to where to look would be welcome!! New set of pictures from Roger. Clearly some work gone into Kirsten. The canopy looks very good.
These pictures are of Andrew's "Water Ratte". There is a good page about its restoration on the site. Andrew has since sold "Water Ratte" and I'm not sure what he has now except I think it floats on salty water rather than fresh !
This handsome craft belongs to Tom. Have to say the inside looks "lived in". A Norman 23 called Halo Too
Very similar to my own with a ford escort diesel and enfield outdrive.
Hard work just doesn't sum it up!!
I've removed a keel cooling system, plugged the holes.
I've replumbed the water feed into the engine.
I've ripped out the freshwater tank from the front of the boat and put a new flexible one and relocated the pump, added a pressure switch into the rear of the boat.
The entire hull has been compounded and then polished 5 times
The outdrive has been rubbed down and repainted - 2 coats of primer and 2 of topcoat, plus a new anode added (which was then painted over by my fiancée!!!!)
Two coats of micron extra antifouling
The water line has been sanded and repainted, and the line at the top of the hull
All the wood rubbing streaks have been scraped, sanded and varnished, as has the nameplate, mast, seat.
New grab handles have been made from wood.
I've made a cover for the old exhaust hole in the transom plate.
I now have noticed an oil leak (and water leak into) my outdrive - there were about 2l of water in the bottom
How's that for a list of jobs??
Here's the latest evidence.....
The headlining you see on the interior shot is the new one - 1 8x4 piece of 5mm ply covered with vinyl from Hawkehouse Marine on 01329 668800. They'll send a catalogue and samples if you phone and ask.
Check out the new mast - my father in law to be and I made it and also the renovated seat and hand rails - fruits of my labour over the winter. Also check out the new windows and the aluminium frames on the front that we made.
Next jobs - headlining for the forward cabin, new curtains and curtain rails, vents to be put into cubby holes...... The list is never endless. We are hoping to try to go to Evesham by boat the weekend after next.
Also I saw a number of people suggested sticking carpet to the walls of the interior. Be careful - our interior had foam backed carpet stuck to the walls, and we took it off, and it was like a sponge. Since doing this the moisture trap has taken a lot less water out
Here are the latest pictures from Tom and Selena
The descriptions are Toms.
shows Halo Too on her
stands next to my father inlaws Lyton 27.
Both boats have had several coats of Micron Extra antifouling,
(expensive, but we antifouled at Christmas in our time off, and we can
leave for a year before re-immersing) and we have repainted our water
lines too. Both boats have had a full hull polish. Note on Halo Too
the paint job on the outdrive. Hammerite smooth works well and seems to
shows a front/side view
on both boats. All of my rubbing strakes
have been scraped and revarnished following our time on the canals last
year. The lower rubbing strakes have had four coats of International
Schooner. The top strakes have had four coats of International
Original. Schooner is about £4 a tin dearer than original so I'll let
you know what the results are in a few years time.
A close up of the
rudder. Note the bolt in the corner of the
rudder where it slips onto the outdrive. We tightened up the rudder
gently and it cracked. We looked at the casting and there was a minute
fault so we welded the crack and tapped and bolted on the top side as we
weren't sure how good the weld was. It lasted a season and is going back
on. Bob recommends knocking the rudder on with a hammer, then doing the
bolts up just tight at that point. This year I put an old inner tube
round the front of the leg where the rudder bolts on as throughout the
season it had worn. Note also the length of thread and Nyloc nuts -
ratchet spanners came in handy here!
This is a close up of
our outdrive. The rudder on it is the standard
item the Bob sells. We had out outdrive refurbished by Bob this year
(Insurance job, we hit a caravan we think near Evesham). It cost £1900
but the case is the only original item left. All the gears and bearings
have been replaced, new prop, new morse cable and anode. I met Bob, he
came out to remove and install the leg and I would recommend his
services to anyone. He did a very thorough job and well and truly knows
what he's talking about. Id quite happy pay for him to do more work on
the boat should we ever need it!
shows the rest of the leg in portrait and the new cable.
A Norman 32 centre cockpit recently spotted on the Calder & Hebble near Horbury Bridge. Can't make out the name so if you recognise it please tell.
The following pictures are from Ian and Anne and shows their Norman Conquest. I have to say they look far roomier than first impressions! Nice boat you two, keep coming back please!!
These photo's are of "White Elephant" from Mike who seems to have bagged a bargain at less than £1000 !! Mike promises to send more as he completes working on her.
Frank sent these two pictures of "Albatross", his Norman 25 built around 1968. Looks bloody good for 34 !! This is not a model I'm familiar with but it looks an ideal size
This is Graham's boat "Montoro" which he has been told is a Norman 18 1/2 ! Looks good so far, new windows all round!
This is David's Norman endearingly called "In A Pickle". It looks in superb condition and is a credit to David I reckon you will agree. I was puzzled by the window layout. David tells me it was supplied to the previous owner as a bare hull and superstructure and completely fitted out by the owner. It's a basic design with galley down one side + loo with a bench seat and storage cupboards along the other. The bow has seating and table which converts to a double. She is powered by 9.9 outboard. The 5hp that you can see in the picture sits on the back - just in case.
There is also a bit of a tale to go with this. I hope Dave does not mind me posting this.
We have had
our boat for 3 yrs now. She is our first. We are on her as much as we can and
although most of our experiences have been good. We had to have a police escort
(2 standing in back of boat) up the Farmers Bridge flight in Birmingham due to
yobs up to no good and more recently were awoken at 1am by the sound of the
canopy zip while moored at Tewkesbury. I let off a compressed air horn hoping to
scare off whoever it was. But when I opened the door to the cockpit I was
confronted by our intruder. The sound of the
zip that I heard was him closing it after getting in! Anyway I was able to get him off the boat and we later found out that he was hiding from the police. Notwithstanding these experiences, we haven't been put off boating and couldn't have asked for a better boat to begin with.
This is Oliver's second Norman. His first was a "20" but he kept banging his head!! Called "Number Two", it is obviously a later model 23 - '78/'79, powered by a tiny 7.5hp Honda 4 stroke outboard - 6 mph flat out but 3 hours to the gallon. Oliver lives in the South East/Fens and use the boat on the River Great Ouse and tributaries. This is the most obvious picture I've seen that demonstrates where "Atlanta" got their moulds from! Once again, a boat in cracking condition and one to be proud of. Oliver has now sent me some interior and cockpit pictures with some comments.
Finally a couple of cockpit pics. When purchased, this area was an absolute disgrace. The zips had broken on the canopy & the previous owner had simply sown them up - very useful for easy access! Unfortunately a new canopy was required. Although the single biggest expenditure on the boat so far, this really was worth every penny.
Terry has a bit of a job on!! He is starting to restore this Norman 18 ! He would like to know if anyone has any info as to what the inside typically looks like. If you can help I will forward anything you have.
Mark has sent me this picture of His Norman 32 "Sweet Briar". An old picture apparently as she is undergoing a total refit. Mark has promised to send me further pictures as the work proceeds.
Brian has just purchased this fine looking Norman 23, "Harbet" and has already tried it out. Mooring it on the Great Ouse, He is looking forward to some fun! We know exactly what he means I think.
Thanks Brian for the inside pictures.
This is a first !! Fred has taken his Norman "Rock -N- Roll" to Germany where he is refurbishing her. He will hopefully send some more pictures. Meanwhile he would like any information at all about Norman 32's. Can anyone help??
Fred has sent me a CD full of pictures of both work on the boat and the engine. I'm still trying to work out how to best use these but if anyone wants to see any of them let me know.
And this latest addition to Fred's family is his "Dolphin"
Chris has had his Norman Conquest for only 3 months. We don't have to break our brains to know where it is in the picture !! Chris is considering a hard top and would like to get in touch with Dave who sent the pic of "Gypsey" right at the top of the page. So if you know Dave or are indeed Dave, please get in touch.
This is "Reggie ll" from Luke and Heidi and I've taken the liberty of reproducing the message that came with the picture.
Now I just love this sequence from Dave Flint !! Its entitled "Norman 25 v Angle Grinder"
Norman 25 rear cabins are too small for any real purpose (other than kids, eek!) and it's such a climb to get in I decided to do this over a pint or two, I'm still waiting for my new canopy at the moment
After the hacking....
Simon sent me this picture of his Norman 23 "Snapdragon". I reckon its almost the first Norman I've seen without a white hull?
Looks good with the blue. Have a look at the entry in the Norman Register for "Snapdragon", there are a few extra pictures of internal fittings and equipment.
This is Mick's Norman 23 "Enchantress" Have a look on the Norman Register page to see how he came about owning her!!!
Richard has a Norman 20 which he moors very close to myself. You can read of some of his experiences and work done so far on the register page.
Here is Eileen and Ray's Norman 18, "Free Spirit" on the Lancaster Canal. The other pictures show "Free Spirit" working down the locks to Glasson basin.
This has to be one of the best examples of a Norman 32 afloat. Looks very impressive from the photo. "The First Lady" is the pride of Vince and Laura. This boat has the classic Norman combination of the Mercedes OM636 diesel engine and the Enfield outdrive.
This is "Freedom", a Norman 23 belonging to Ralph and Sarah.
Danny has sent this picture of his Norman Conquest. He has had his boat for over a year now and has the same experience as many of us in that it is difficult to find anything about Normans !
This is Roy's Norman 23, "Persephone", Not sure about the origin of the name but the boat is very similar to my own.
"Bought 3 years ago, despite what you say about petrol that's what ours is, old ford 1ltr side valve, very little trouble, more expensive than diesel but on the Lancaster canal you can't go that far (you've got to be seriously committed to use the new Ribble Link) outside was painted by me 2years ago out of the water when we antifouled it, interior was completely re fit by previous owner, a very good job, I'll sort out a photo and send as it is unlike any other of this model that I have seen."
NB. "Persephone" is from "The Iliad" and if you click this link you will read a piece that very definitely is reflective of our pastime !!
Here we have Jim and Margaret's Norman 23, "White Queen". They are now well into producing their own page on this site. Have a look in "Your Pages" and if you fancy your own let me know.
This Norman 20, "Gabrielle ll" has been sent in by Bruce. I'm hoping he'll tell me some more about her.
I have to admit I had to look twice before I believed this was a Norman! I'm still surprised to see one looking as "modern" as this. This being Ian's Norman 266, "Current Liability", which comes as no surprise to me when I think of the hoover effect this hobby has on your pockets!
This is John's Norman 21 "Alibongo". It seems there are some pictures of her looking even smarter about to arrive.
Alan's Norman 20, "Rhapsody is clearly a favourite possession and is threatening to escape the Lancaster Canal and bump into us ! He has totally refurbished the interior and is about to start on the hull and superstructure. Look forward to seeing some more pictures, hopefully inside too.
This is Ashley's Norman 20, "Overwater" which he has moored on Kielder Water. Much more detail and Ashley's thoughts in the Register entry for this good looking craft.
(nb. Some of these picture files are a fair size although well worth looking at)
Here we see Nigel's Norman 23 "Wavelength". Looks in great nick too. Nobody can accuse us Norman folk of not looking after our craft. Nigel is looking for a second hand canopy to tide him over while he saves up like me. If you have any suggestions have a look at the for sale and wanted page.
Both these pictures are a fair size to preserve the detail !!
Northbound for lunch at Alrewas On the Trent & Mersey at Fradley Junction mooring
This is Brian's Norman 23. A lot of work is planned and hopefully Brian will tell us about this. He needs to beg, borrow or hire a trailer to move it. If anyone can help have a look at the "For Sale/Wanted" page.
As you can see we have a lot to do, but generally the boat is sound and the engine appears to be fine. We have three batteries on board (better than ballast) and at least 10 bags of ballast in the bow. There are solar charges in the windscreen area topping up the batteries. Rubbing strakes have to be renewed and a good rubbing down with abrasive compound should bring her hull back to life without too much problem. The canopy is new, but not well fitted, a few tweaks here and there with the tie downs will solve that.
Will keep you informed of progress through the winter. The moorings are great as you can see and not overcrowded.
This is Mike's Norman 20 "Microlyn. A very sleek looking conversion to the wheelhouse. Two of these pictures are "computer enhanced".
"I have a Norman 20 I bought some 5 years ago, since that time I have totally refurbished her and fitted a new wheel house, I have sent a couple of pictures below if you want to put them on your site, I bought her with an 18hp Johnson outboard, since, I have bought a Mercury 90 which is 1,100cc, I use her mainly in open sea and she performs beautifully even in rough seas, with the heavier engine she just cuts through the waves as stable as a rock."
I have had my boat 'MAI TAI' for
nearly six years, she is kept on a swinging mooring in Hadliegh Ray and is used
in the Thames Estuary for fishing and pleasure. I have a Yamaha 60 hp outboard
fitted and found similar results to your member with the 90 hp - they are great
sea boats and very stable when planing. I get about 24 knots when planing and
have a 4 hp mariner from my inflatable on board as a back up I have refitted
the interior and have made a wheelhouse from Marine ply to keep out the
elements. I had a custom made canopy to cover the rear deck. Being used in the
estuary off Southend with many shallows, I have fitted a depth sounder/fish
finder, VHF, GPS and a Fluxgate compass.
This is about "Molegrip", previously "Kingfisher". So named to recognise John's skills with said tool !
John and Jane are completely refurbishing the boat and what follows are John's contributions and pictures.
Only moved the boat once and that was
from Castle Marina in Nottingham to Derby Motor Boat Club next to Sawley. Trip
was good but boat ran a little warm. Already had raw water pump changed but will
be checking to see if engine ports are blocked.
The engine is a Petrol Ford Anglia 1300cc. I do not know what type of drive system its got - may be informed on surveyors report.
I have met a marine mechanic who was very helpful so I will Quiz him to find out more. The Boat is currently named Kingfisher but will be changed to Molegrip which is my nickname since my profession is a plumber/heating/gas engineer and I collect Moles ( not Real Ones only figurines). We have in the past purchased and refitted caravans so hopefully with careful planning and help from people like yourself will do the same with the boat.
Molegrip not moved forward much.
Completely striped interior and found a leak on sender unit to depth sounder.
Gutted wiring from boat and have started replacing it - together with new fuse
Going to boat Saturday afternoon & Sunday to find a second leak.
I can now supply some pictures of the works we have carried out so far. It was in a bit of a state when we had it so we have gutted the inside of the cabin and cockpit. Re-wired completely and fitted new fuse board. Removed unused petrol tank, scraped and sanded old anti-fouling back to GRP and just completed priming and anti-fouling as the pictures show.
Since our last
report we decided to re-paint the complete hull (both undercoat and top coat
applied). Removed wooden rubbing strakes and replaced with new hardwood
version. Removed all existing screws from previous plastic rubbing strake and
filled ready for fitting a new one (now completed). Sanded Z drive, undercoated
and top coated. Removed steel front protection strip and replaced with
aluminium. Finally last weekend we renamed the boat "Molegrip". This weekend
some more coats of varnish to wooden rubbing strake (weather permitting), last
coat of Z drive together with some general cleaning and an application of Mer
polish along with finishing touches of new ventilation grills.
After this weekend the hull will be completely finished and ready to go back into the water next weekend to start on the interior and upper exterior.
I will forward some more pictures of current interior and the progression
These detailed interior pictures are of Chris's "Silver Stream. Good resource for those of you curious about general and typical layouts. Mine seems to be different to most in that my toilet compartment is between the dinette and front cabin but otherwise very similar.
Hoping to get some exterior shots of "Silver Stream" too. Cracking looking canopy too !
This is Barry's Norman 20. Unnamed as yet and a bit to do ! Lets hope we get some more as the work progresses.
Latest from Barry -
"Still a long way to go - but it floats. Now on it's mooring at Maldon Essex
It's now called "Jester"
Dave Flint has sent these in response to my pleas for inside pictures. Not sure if its a genuine "marine" bottle of ale !
These are from Dave's previous boat, "Pingu The Haddock Slayer" !!
Thirsty wee craft Pingu was !!
Here we have Ray and Sandy's Norman 23, "Freya". The "before & after" pictures just show what a transformation work on the hull can make.
"Just an update on my Norman 23. this
has been one of those projects which seems to have no end in sight, then all at
once everything just comes together, and last weekend we took Freya for our
first cruise up the Thames through Reading.
It was well worth the 2 1/2 years work, blood, sweat, tears and swearing. One of those rare moments. Thanks to your website she has a new Coverit canopy.
The only original parts not replaced are the rear bulkhead wall and door, Everything else I made. ( Never done woodwork before.) Still more work to do to the exterior though. I will send more pics when done. ( I know, a boat is never finished.)"
This is really impressive, The first photo is a three stage combination and is, therefore, a biggish file but worth a look at. The transformation is amazing and should serve as encouragement for those that are a tad intimidated by the look of the job in hand !!
Marilyn has taken the hint and sent some pictures of the interior nature of "Foxy Lady". If there appears to be a slope, its down to "Mums" sand in the bows!!!
Marilyn has sent these of "Foxy Lady" wearing a new frock!! Very tasty with a shapely stern to boot!!
Paul and Julie have sent a couple of pictures of Honey Pie with more to follow
We have finally found some photo's of Honey Pie to include on the Norman Web site. The first photo was taken approx 2 weeks after purchase, when we took her out of the water to check and antifoul the hull. I was also given a good wash down !!!!! The second photo was approx 2 weeks after the first as she was returned to her mooring in slightly better shape. We then used her as she was for a couple of months, in an attempt to feel like we owned a boat and that it really had been a good idea to buy her in such poor condition !!!! The current situation is that she is out of the water again and undergoing a total refit from a bare hull upwards. If all goes well, she will go back on to the Monmouth & Brecon canal sometime in July to join the other 2 Norman Swallow's that reside at Goytre Wharf.
Mac2's "Happy Wanderer" is having a lovely inside job!
I've fitted T&G on ceiling and seat backs/floor well and done an oak floor anyhow pics show it to date just little more to do in cabin I.E. paint /varnish etc then onto cockpit.....
And here we see a little Mac2 or should this be Mac3??
The boat is now at 3rd stage primer after flatting and filling, its all grey and I'm sure if i fitted a 12 inch downspout pipe either side it would pass for a miniature Motor Torpedo Boat [:)]anyhow its starting to come together now and i just need a few days to let the primer harden off properly and "cure" then i can move on to the undercoat stages, weather permitting ........Mac2
And now, at last, we have a photo of "Happy Wanderer" back in the water and looking superb!
Phil has sent me these two pictures of "Chantmarle", a Norman 23 which looks to still be in mint condition.
This is Chris and Meg's Norman 23 recently christened "Bee-Lay-Zee". Its clear from the pictures how much work you two are doing !!
Ken's "Pikachu" is a Norman 24 is near Lancaster. Ken reckons there is some work to do but it looks quite good as it is to me !
This is JW's Norman 23 "Moet", says its "bog standard" ! Looks a bit better than that to me !
Dave paid £2900 for "Rose Robellen", a Norman 20 which, from looking at the photos, looks a very good buy.
Moored on the Thames near Windsor, Dave only had a few "cosmetic" bits to sort out to have her looking pristine again.
Here we have a point of debate and discussion ! Gerard has registered "Alwiso2" as a Norman 30. He has owned the boat for three years. I reckon its likely a 29 if it is indeed a Norman. If you look at "Silver Link" you will see she is a Norman 266 ! With a beam of 9' 3". So Norman did actually make other wide beams apart from the 22 mentioned in the "Thirty Years of Motor Cruisers" book. Also "Current Liability" looks to be a wide beam too.
Whatever, I'm pleased that someone like Gerard in France is looking at our site and contributing despite a language barrier. Have to say its a good looking engine !!
This is John's 23 called "Nicea ll", still waiting for a clue on the name !
The only history I have is that she spent most of her life on the Thames but the last five or six years she's been down on the River Stour in Sandwich Kent. She is now at Twyford Bridge Marina and now has a 4 stroke 15HP Mariner outboard. There is the usual fittings (head with Portapotti, sink with pump action cold water, twin burner grill & oven etc). The Console which the steering wheel is fitted to has been modified at some stage since there is the shadow of a ‘Norman’ badge under where a fuse panel is now fitted (fuses for navigation and anchor lights, horn, and windscreen wipers which are non existent). No other info other than I think she's a 23 not 24! I don’t think she’ll be boat of the week but the engine might!!
Here we see Dave's Norman 22 "Pearl", which I am sure is a 23 !
And here we are peering out the back of "pearl on the Medway.
Colin and Christine were one of the first to register their Norman 20 "Jigsaw" with the site. They were good to their word and have now sent me some pics. They have had "Jigsaw" for seven years moored on the Erewash.
Nigel and Kath have just bought "Wonderful Wednesday", a Norman 32 which they say "is not in very good condition"!
Now I know pictures only tell you so much but, considering age, she looks not half bad to me and what a project to work on. I'm envious.
Leif has sent this from Norway. Normans certainly get about !
I bought my Norman a couple a years
ago here in Oslo, Norway and am enjoying the boat in the Oslo fjord. However I
do not know anything about the boat, and would appreciate if anybody could give
me some information. The previous owner called the boat Norman Viking, and
claimed that it is app. 21 feet. I am now in the process of buying a new motor,
is there any certificate on the boat saying max .or recommended Hp ? I have
enclosed a rather poor picture, but your knowledgeable members will probably be
able to recognise the make.
David has just bought his Norman 23 "Comfort". He sent these two pictures asking us to identify the year and model. I suggested it was a Mark l and was likely built between 1972 and 1975.
Some interior shots of Dominics wide beam 266 "Crio An Loca"
When is a Norman not a Norman?? Who's to say. This is Kevin's "Blue Dolphin" and a fine looking craft it indeed is.
This is what Kevin says -
"I wonder if you could shed a bit more light on the
make of my boat! When I bought it, it was advertised as a Norman 266 wide beam
aft cockpit cruiser.
After some research I found it was a Bates Astral built on a Norman hull. The length is 27ft with a 10ft beam, 1.8 BMC diesel shaft drive, built around 1979.
Great boat, my pride and joy,"
Gordon contacted me about his Conquest, "After You" asking how to get rainwater out of the hull!! Look at these pictures and you'll get the idea!
Having said that, I reckon she'll scrub up well.
And here is the addition of a new canopy !!
"Osprey", a Norman 20 belonging to John and Helen. The photo's are quite large on this page just to show what a pleasant mooring Osprey was inhabiting.
This is Adi and Cheryl's "Guinevere", a Norman 22 looking in remarkably good nick. More pics to follow we hope??
And this is inside!!
"Jester" is Jims Norman 20 which is in for a bit of work. More pics to follow as work progresses
First picture is obviously from an earlier life !!
After the Easter meet the bug bit me again and I have made a start on the Wheelhouse. I used the original pattern that I cut last year just changed the radii in the window cut outs as suggested in the forum. This gives me full standing head room (6'4" +)I can say that I am more than happy with the look of it now the plan for the rest of it is :- MAKE IT UP AS I GO ALONG... Well its worked so far so why change it. Have attached some pics of the sides in place. The wood I am using is beech ply 3/4 inch and this has 14 plys will be interesting to see the boat back in the water again with the extra weight I may have to rethink the water line
Now Bob's "Dancer" may not be a Norman but, if Normans had never been made then, neither would have Atlanta. Atlanta and Shetland have used the Norman moulds for their range including the 32 of which "Dancer" is a fine example.
It seems no matter how new your boat is there is always some work!!
"I'm quite pleased with the interior now as I've had to re-upholster the roof of both cabins and fit new lights, vents, etc."
Garry has trailored his 23 down to the Norfolk Broads of which I am envious. Some good pics from Garry including a windscreen he made himself.
Here's dedication for you ! Kevin was chest deep in water taking some of these pictures of "Red Mist", his Norman 18.
This is Stewart's Norman 23 "Mrs C"
Good looking interior Stewart, thanks!!
Stewart's recent foray onto the Broads has yielded these snaps....
Not sure where on the Broads you are allowed to do this???
Thought you might like to see the pics of a norman 22 that we rescued from being cut up and put in the skip. It had been completely submerged for two years but as you can see scrubbed up quite well! Unfortunately i don't seem to be able to find after interior pics. We used her for a couple of years and then upsized to a Norman 32.
A ridiculous amount of man hours went into the renovation but it was worth it to save her from the scrapheap!
The following from Brian about his Norman 22 and a previous boat!
"This is Tudor Rose, my surrogate Norman (a 1974 Freeman 23ft. I kept on the Thames until I sold her last Oct. - I'm the old white bearded one, the other is my brother Mike. Having this Freeman slowed down the Norman restoration by at least 3 years - I preferred cruising to building!!) but now I'm getting on with it.
The Freeman had the original Ford Watermota xflow (marinised Ford Escort mk 1 ) which was fine, although I did have a scary cruise when the petrol pump seal failed and in true car tradition, the tell-tale drain pumped neat petrol by the gallon into the bilges!! Luckily I'd fitted a bilge blower in the engine compartment a few weeks previous and rapidly switched it on to clear the fumes - if I hadn't, I don't think my son or I would be here to tell the tale.........
Lovely boats with nice wood - it was a real "gentleman's carriage" with near perfect handling characteristics. I still regret selling her but I just had to get this Norman finished!!
These are a combination of views after I'd got the Norman in the barn and stripped back to a bare hull. RyverWytch2 is as she is now - cleaned repaired and epoxy coated hull, with all external fixtures and fittings finished and on the trailer. Currently I'm working hard on the fit-out. I will do a detailed log and photos of the whole build when I get more time, but this is a start!!
"Brenda's Babe" is a Norman 25 belonging to Roy and Brenda of course !!
Looks like they enjoy the occasional tinny !!
"At the rear of the table is the radiator. Under the front seat is a 10 gallon tank which acts as a reservoir. I got the idea because i thought it criminal to eject all the waste heat into the canal when we really wanted it up the front end. There is an inline 12 volt pump which transfers hot water from the tank into the radiator at the flick of a switch. The downside of this system is that at this time of year the water is very cold and you would have to run the engine (Ford 1600XLD diesel) a couple of hours to warm the tank. We recently installed an Eberspacher hot air heater. This takes about 25 minutes to warm the entire boat to 22 centigrade. I used rainwater down pipe to duct the air. The only problem is that the thermostat is in the engine room so if I run the engine, my hot air heating packs up ! Anyone got a spare stat??"
Here we have James's Norman 18, "Mansell". I've yet to ask after the source of the name! These are before work commenced so we await the transformation !!
and here we have the latest pictures
This from Chris who seems to be suggesting we are all old gnarled veterans!!
Sorry It's taken so long for a picture. I know it's not the best but I hope to sail her in the next few weeks and take some nicer more detailed pictures both internally and externally. She's also coming out of the water for a week in April so I hope to take more pics as I am unsure of the condition of the hull.
The boat is moored at a marina on Lancaster canal and I paid £1,600 for her. As a beginner boater I found it almost impossible to get a mooring on the Lancaster canal and finding a boat for under £2,500 was a difficult task. I bought the boat off a pleasant elderly gentleman who lived near the Macclesfield canal near high lane. He said he liked the Lancaster as it had no Locks on the main line.
It was a impulse buy as he had a mooring at a marina and I thought well if I don't then I might never do it!
I wish I had taken pictures of her when I made the purchase as the boat was in a very sorry state. The cockpit was soaked through after months of rain from a 20 year old canopy and most of the wood throughout was rotten. She was completely covered in Algae and the cabin was wet from leaky windows.
The control box was the original white 2 lever box which meant you could change from forward to reverse whilst at full throttle (not good) The engine failed about 3 miles outside of Garstang when I took her out for only the 2nd time in May last year and we where stranded. Luckily some boaters on holiday towed us back to the marina and a bottle of wine was given to them for their kind nice spirited efforts.
Sadly I spent most of last years superb summer working on the boat and only managed a trip to Carnforth which was very picturesque as we passed Deep Cutting and the Lune Aqueduct. I have to say that I think this lovely boat was the best purchase I have made and at least I now know the inside and out of it.
Here's a list of work completed
new canopy provided by Coverit (Great Job!)
Engine service & new fuel tank by Martin Yates Marine (Again great job!!)
new engine box & cables
new helm seat
new floor supports & flooring both in cockpit and in cabin
new ropes & fenders
new interior cushions & curtains
new leisure battery
Re sealing of windows
and next week hopefully new rewiring for a small 4" tv & extra lighting
Total spent £1,300 approx.
Hope to see you boaters around this coming spring. I would like to know if I am one of the youngest Norman boat owners. I don't see many more 28 year olds enjoying this superb relaxing (?) and friendly past time.
This is Duncan's Norman 23 "Lady Jane Ruth". I like the look of the hard top cockpit. Yet another wise man who resides in the glorious white rose county !!
Look forward to seeing "Lamorna" after a wash !
All the months that I've been visiting the site whilst waiting to finalise the deal on Lamorna must have paid off 'cos, as a non-boaty person (till now), I actually recognised the model! And I've learnt things like anti-fouling and osmosis, etc etc!!
I foresee a flurry of activity next week, with buckets of water and T-Cut, and mops and buckets - well if there's water laying inside, I guess the hull doesn't leak! Then we need to get the cockpit covered to prevent more water getting in. This is going to be a (very!) long term project, so I need to introduce the other members of the family to the site so that they can get a bit more of an insight into what's going to be involved - I hope it doesn't put them off!
What a difference a week makes! A million and one buckets of water later, as the hose wouldn't reach, lots of frantic scrubbing and mopping and she's looking better already. We even unearthed the original canopy from underneath her, a bit the worse for wear and with one side panel missing, but better than nothing. Now the search is on for a trailer and we'll bring her home where we can work on her in more comfort and with all the tools to hand.
'Success!! We have acquired a trailer for 'Lamorna'. It's just as we wanted - not pretty, needs some TLC, but within our price range and sold to us by a very nice, genuine gentleman - in the dark, by torch/headlight and surrounded by startled rabbits!! It followed us home with no problems - a two hour drive and we arrived home after midnight, then had to manhandle it through the narrow gap into the garden. I hope the neighbours weren't watching. Now, before we can bring Lamorna home we need to 'pretty-up' our trailer and get everything in working order. The basics are there - length, weight limit, wheels! So, we have a project within a project!! Par for the course actually, in this household - but I'm sure it will be well worth the wait. Keep tuned for the next instalment, when we try to get Lamorna on the trailer . . . '
'Now we've widened the access into the garden, ready to bring Lamorna home, it's time to progress with the improvements to the trailer . . .'
Now this is a rare Norman 29. Only around 20 were ever built.
Andy says the boat is tired and needs TLC.
Looking at the pictures I suspect there may a few wish theirs was "tired" !!
And now "Twirgle" has been finished and sold, looks like new.
Oliver knows what pleases the webmaster!
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Pat and Mary are yet more residents of Sawley Marina. Hope to see them at the meet.
This is "Silver Lady"
Trevor registered "Dream On" almost at the beginning of this site and has found himself a digital camera and sent these impressive pictures.
"Twirgle" is a Norman 29 wide beam boat. Nor many were made and Andy picked this up in a bit of a sorry state.
Here's the progress.
When we first brought it I commented that I felt it was tired and needed some TLC, well I had the wrong wording it was not tired it was comatose! The more work I was doing the more work I seemed to find. Well now is the time for me to stop and enjoy the summer on it (another way of saying the money has run out!).
Jobs carried out so far:
Removed unsightly hand rails.
Scrubbed all exterior surfaces (several times)
Sort out badly installed electrics.
Started starboard engine, had not been started for five years! (Diesel problem)
Removed badly rotted roof and re-designed and manufactured and installed, a plywood canvas and gel coat roof..
Sorted out water system.
I'm sure there must be a lot of other jobs we have done, as we have been working on the boat solidly since March and there is still a lot more to do.
These from Luke in Ireland....
I have just purchased the boat and had to make a round trip of 400 miles to buy her. Always wanted a Norman 20 and just upgraded from a Shetland 535. She needs a lot of work so I will send some more pics later to allow you to see the work as it progresses. The Norman 20 makes an excellent sea boat too! I will use her for fishing as I did the original 'Fecker'. I am based in Dublin Ireland
This is Bill's 23 "Old Soapy"
"The Marina we are using is at Crooke, Standish Lower Ground Wigan. Its privately owned quiet and well maintained Marina, and close to a few good pubs on the Leeds and Liverpool canal. I have also included a picture of Old Soapy in a lock (the first lock we have ever used, I'm happy to say she never sustained any damage)."
Here's a rarity, a Norman 17 belonging to Glenn and called "Tadpole"
Looks in great condition for the age.
"I am sure it is a Norman 17 even though a few things look different. The vents on the roof are round and unscrew, and as you can see there is a large square hatch at the back of the cabin. The steering controls are not original and I'm sure the engine isn't. I would certainly appreciate any information and pictures of the Norman 17 you can provide. Also my family and I are certain to attend some future meets."
(This last pic is courtesy of Graham Wheeldon from the Norman factory. It looks right does it not?)
Joanne has just bought this 23 with the doubtful name of "Knowmates". She's so chuffed she's already promoted herself to Captain!!
"I have just bought a 23 foot Norman. It's in good nick
Pleased as punch I am !"
Joanna (Captain. He he!)
Graeme and Carole's Norman 23, "Moonshine" appears resplendent with this clever colour scheme.
Here we have a guest, Bill bought this Dejon 13 a tad cheap!!
"I purchased my boat for £50 from the local tip and have refurbished it. I had no idea of the maker until I found one for sale on the net. most of the lip was missing so i removed it all and filled the gap as it is fibreglassed over inside and i an getting a rubber d section to replace it I fitted a steering rod to replace the rotten pulley system and hope to have it back in the water this summer 2004"
"I hope the only time to be pleased to see her out of the water, arriving to be put into the river Douglas. Will have more pic's shortly."
Dave & Glyn's "Pegasus" arriving the lazy way......(kidding!!)
Steve has owned his Norman 32 "Opal" for 17 1/2 years. Is that a record for the site?
"Opal" at Brummigan
"Opal" at Gas Street
"Opal" at Herts & Middlesex
Pictures 1 & 2 were take when I bought "Opal" on 10th May 1987.
The interior shots show what an unusual layout the front cabin has. No side table, galley on both sides, and quite a wide walkway with enough room to swing that cat. As you can see from the photo's, she also originally had a hard sliding wheelhouse roof which I replaced some years ago with a conventional canopy (made by Coverit) The wooden handrails on the cabin roofs are now S/Steel as are the pulpit and rear handrails. The louvre plastic round windows?? have been replaced with obscure glass. Some of the windows had been replaced with Perspex but they are all laminated glass now (I think).
I will feed you with more info and, I dare say, some silly stories (after 17+ years with the same boat I've probable got quite a few) in days/weeks to come.
A new cooker for "Opal" and a few more pictures.
Spotted by John at Bathpool near Taunton. The owners will get to know about the site!
"Princess Kimberley" "Lady Caroline"
According to what Graham Wheeldon told us, there was a time when 60% of all Normans built were exported especially to Norway, Denmark, Sweden and Holland.
Erik has sent these pics of his Conquest in Denmark.
Richard's gearbox in Norman 266
Questions in the forum!
John's Norman 23 "Gemini" is actually up for sale. Here are some interesting views.
"Compass Rose" rises!
We had 'Compass Rose' lifted out at the weekend ready for some over winter work. We cruised from Godmanchester to Pophams Eau at Nordelph Pumping Station, we actually had to go within a half a mile of where we wanted to be at Nordelph through Outwell and Upwell, Marmont Priory and back to Three Holes to get in the other end of Pophams Eau, it took us three days and the last mile was done being towed down the river with my truck as it was choked right up with weed. It took us two and a half hours to go that mile in the dark with one flashlight, two pill boxes, several trees, and a fair quantity of swearing. Although Ruth said she enjoyed the experience (she don't get out enough)
We lifted her out with a HIAB which a very good mate of mine owns, which was very handy as it only cost me a couple of bacon butties and a mug of tea.
Hopefully we will get her all painted up and her name sign written back on ready for relaunch back at Godmanchester in April 2006.
Jim (Of Jimbo fame) has provided these interior pictures of "La Roy ll". Just shows how you can establish your own style and identity as well as what can be done.
They do get about! this one spotted in Kristiansand, Southern Norway
Andrew wanted to demonstrate that Moonfleet are actually doing some work on "Sail A Vee"
Danny's 20 with some work to do!
Hello thought you may be interested to post a picture of two great British classics. I have restored them both almost completed the Norman 23 and almost ready to go to water ? the MG is 1967. and Norman 1972. Dave