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| philihun |
Posted - 17 Feb 2024 : 19:43:38
Logged in out of nostalgia i suppose, lost contact after changing boats and thought it had wound up. Pity after so much effort by DF and the info he and the lokes of clive gave out. Me i'm on a viking 32 now and wondering how long before CART pull the plug .
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| df |
Posted - 18 Apr 2024 : 08:09:24
In the pic below which is a tohatsu 9.8 2009 manual start is shows a charging coil at item 6, it looks to be a 2 phase ac output which would need rectified and regulated to charge from, a motorbike reg/rec would do the job if there's not one already fitted, a 3 phase one would do just leave one of the input phase wires unconnected.
Items 4 & 8 are for the ignition system.
I would imagine the 9.8 is exactly the same motor just slightly detuned for the yank market due to some local licencing laws, I think the 9.9 thing is a great lakes rule where 10hp upwards needs registration.
This one is the leccy components of the leccy start model if it helps.
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| df |
Posted - 18 Apr 2024 : 07:55:52
If the charging coil is fitted there is likely to be 2 or 3 wires not connected lurking, likely to be the same colour, if so chances are they will be 2 or 3 phase ac which would have gone to a regulator/rectumfrier unit (small finned box) to give regulated 12v dc output which is usually connected to the battery connection on the starter, but.....
These things were made in both leccy and pull start variants and have the same engine block so the mounts would be there anyway, most modern motors are one or the other not both so if the cowling has the pull cord opening chances are they fitted a different base under the flywheel without the extras.
Modern leccy start motors tend to come with an emergency pull cord in the tool kit that you have to remove the cowling and top engine cover to manually wrap it around the flywheel to use it.
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| Mad Harold |
Posted - 17 Apr 2024 : 20:02:41
It's a Tohatsu 9.9 fourstroke year 2009.There are screwholes for a starter motor but it is missing.
I am assumng it was electric start, but it has been removed at some time.If it was originally electric start, the presumably it will have a charging coil.There are a load of wires but none leading to the battery,and I will have to do some dismantling to see what these wires do,as they are inaccesible as they are.Was going to do that tonight but my back is killing me having lifted the outboard off and staggered with it on a muddy slope to the car.Tomorrow perhaps.
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| IanM |
Posted - 17 Apr 2024 : 05:20:54
Congratz on the boat (assuming the engine is OK!)
Even the higher output coils can be a disappointment unless you are routinely running at high revs. You might be better off fitting a solar panel and controller, assuming you can find space for it. A 100W panel will give you 5 amps charging in full sun and 2 or 3 amps on bright but overcast days.
Prices are pretty good for panels at present. I think China have flooded the market and brought down the prices. |
| df |
Posted - 16 Apr 2024 : 14:58:47
Probably much the same as yamaha or mariner 9.9 for parts then, I'm surprised you don't have starter on a 9.9hp.
4 stroke I'm assuming.
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| Mad Harold |
Posted - 16 Apr 2024 : 09:13:48
Thanks DF.Have been studying You Tube on this subject, and you're right about fitting another charging coil.They are available on E Bay, and even manufacturers ones are about £60.
On the You Tube videos, some use a seperate rectifier/regulator, and others plug into the existing one.Will be removing the engine soon to bring home and give it a good dose of looking at.
It's an oldish Tohatsu 9.9. |
| df |
Posted - 16 Apr 2024 : 07:51:28
What outboard is it? Pull start motors often have a low output 12v winding but wether it would charge a battery is another matter, I may have an old 8hp yamaha winding in my shed.
For decent charging you would need a higher power charge coil and regulator/rectifier unit.
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| Mad Harold |
Posted - 15 Apr 2024 : 16:40:24
Has anyone fitted a charging coil to a handstart outboard?What is involved?
If so, advice would be appreciated.
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| df |
Posted - 13 Apr 2024 : 09:29:31
Nice one! How old is the fuel in it? Could be the reason for the running issue.
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| Mad Harold |
Posted - 12 Apr 2024 : 19:01:08
I've done it now!! Left a depodit for the little Callumcraft.Fell for it at once!!
It's on a trailer in the marina and does need work.Engine is pull start with no alternator, alhough I believe an alternator can be retro fitted,(it's a 9.9 Tohatsu.Only ran on one cylinder initially, so needs some attention and the Morse control needs some adjustment.
Inside has a sink with electric pumped cold water from a bladder tank and a two ring gas hob.There seems to be as much room in the cabin aos my old Norman 20, but with the pop top up I can stand upright.Price was £1800 so I don' t think I was robbed.
Looking forward to some serious "fettlin" and a few cruises.
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| Mad Harold |
Posted - 12 Apr 2024 : 11:10:23
I do envy you on the Broads, but much too far from W.Yorks to travel.
If I am going to boat it has to be on the crappy ditches around here.Looking at a boat this afternoon moored on a relatively lock free section of the cut, and hope that it will suit.
It'a 17ft Callumcraft with a pop top, and theoretically should be ok for me as I only go off for two or three days at a time.Looking at the photo's of it, I love the Bug Eyed look of it. |
| df |
Posted - 11 Apr 2024 : 10:18:03
The big joy of the broads is no locks and no stoppages, makes it worth the drive for us but depends where you are in the country.
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| IanM |
Posted - 11 Apr 2024 : 06:55:13
quote:
Originally posted by Mad Harold
Well IanM, I have been boatless for over a year now, and have been going "Cold Turkey" for some time.It was the state of the canals that put me off(stopages, low water,and what really annoyed me was having to book up to two days before going through certain locks)It took a lot of the spontanaity out of going for a cruise.Couldn't just see a sunny day and think "I'll go off for a couple of days"
and you were not sure of getting back.The licence fee increase (and mooring) is also offputting,but,but, once a boater, always a boater, and when I see a boat I fancy, I will buy it.Fool that I am!!!99
We've already sold the narrowboat but we can continue calling ourselves boaters for now because we've still got the little riverboat on the drive. It needs a few hours of TLC before it can be sold. Then we'll see how we feel. We might hire one now and again just to scratch that itch.
The more immediate problem is that our (already full) garage and dining room are now stuffed to the gills with 17 years of accumulated junk off the narrowboat, despite a fairly ruthless campaign of chucking stuff away. We found things I can't remember and we had no less than three TV aerials on board in addition to the satellite dish that we would normally use. I can't imagine a scenario where I've tried to get a signal with the dish and two of the aerials and then decide to try the third really old and crappy aerial on the off chance...  |
| Mad Harold |
Posted - 10 Apr 2024 : 12:28:39
Well IanM, I have been boatless for over a year now, and have been going "Cold Turkey" for some time.It was the state of the canals that put me off(stopages, low water,and what really annoyed me was having to book up to two days before going through certain locks)It took a lot of the spontanaity out of going for a cruise.Couldn't just see a sunny day and think "I'll go off for a couple of days"
and you were not sure of getting back.The licence fee increase (and mooring) is also offputting,but,but, once a boater, always a boater, and when I see a boat I fancy, I will buy it.Fool that I am!!!99 |
| Mad Harold |
Posted - 09 Apr 2024 : 15:47:58
I'm still here and although boatless at present I am looking for another.Trouble is, after owning two Normans and a steel narrowboat, I now "know the score" and have become rather choosy.Still, Nil Desperandum, I am sure there is a boat out there somewhere with my name on it! |
