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MACH1
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 Posted - 25 Feb 2020 : 14:00:59
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Hi
what length rope do i need to use the river trent from torsky to newark , norman 23 we have only gone through small locks
yet to go through crompton , we drove there and it looks a deep lock do i need extra length ropes ????
thanks
doug
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cliveshep
Thailand
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Posted - 25 Feb 2020 : 16:16:40
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My advice is at least 3 warps of 12mm spun nylon (kinder to hands) not less than 10 metres long. On on the bow, one on each quarter aft. A Sensible skipper will NOT toss the rope in an untidy heap on the seat but get some hooks to hang the coils on ready to use.
For an anchor you need at least 5 metres of galvanised chain with 50 metres of 12mm spun nylon bent onto it. The chain is to weight down the anchor warp to as near horizontal as possible so the pull of the vessel sets the anchor flukes in and does not break them out.
For this reason chain should be at least 8mm for the weight and 5 metres is a minimum on a small cruiser. If you intend to lie at anchor at night you'll need an led top or anchor light visible all around the horizon and if in a river a 2nd anchor is preferably deployed over the stern and a lot of warp paid out as you run up to where you intend to drop the bower anchor, then drop back to set the main anchor while hauling in on the stern anchor to stop you swinging all over the channel or fairway in the wind.
Hope that helps. Incidentally - go for 3-strand rope and teach yourself to splice the 3 main splices - eye, back and straight.
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df
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 Feb 2020 : 17:46:20
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Iirc all the locks on the trent have riser cables so your ropes don't have to run all the way up and back down and during working hours they have lock keepers so you don't have to get off the boat, just pass a line around a riser and hang onto it as the boat goes up/down, it's still worth having at least a 1.5x boat length roopes.
The anchor is only really for if you have problems but well worth having for the tidal section as well as good timings for doing the trip, I'd say 8-10kg danforth on 5 metres of chain followed by 15-20 metres of rope, 12mm should be the minimum rope thickness not for loading but for handling as you'll have to break the anchor out by hand if you use it.
Don't even look at the folding grapnel things as they are pretty pointless and won't stop you.
Do the trip in one go, don't plan to stop on the tidal bit unless popping into a locked basin, if you do this you will need to enter them against the flow so will likely have to go past and turn back (rounding up them northerners call it).
Watch out for gravel barges as you will always find them on blind bends, give them space as they need more depth and will not move for you (assuming they are still working).
A VHF is handy as the lockies will have the lock ready for you if you call ahead (ch73 or 74 I think it was).
As a disclaimer I've not been up that way since 2011 so memory is fading, ripon boat club do a great guide for the Ouse & Trent.
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cliveshep
Thailand
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Posted - 26 Feb 2020 : 12:47:08
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Memory does fade as you hit old age Dave, poor old boy.
I got new for you about the changes since 2011 - they've changed the water, it is now completely different water and I have it on good authority that it is also wet.
I only mentions this bizarre fact in case you painted the bottom of that Princess with Wickes best interior emulsion while under the influence as this new wet water could well wash it off.
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trevork
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Posted - 26 Feb 2020 : 13:24:25
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| I did the stretch from Trent Lock to the Stainforth & Keadby Canal when I first bought a Norman. The tale of this can be read in "The Voyage Home"! We had all the warnings of storm tempest and disaster and carefully did all the advised preparartions. Apart from the levels being high and delaying our start, plus a few mechanical mishaps, we found the whole stretch far from frightening and enjoyed it. We had great support from the lock keepers who advised each other of our approach. We also used the boat club charts to avoid the shallow areas. The one complaint at the time was a dire lack of open pubs! Cromwell and Lemonroyd locks are huge! Fun can be had in entering both Keadby Lock and West Stockwith Locks. That's where Dave's "rounding up" comes into play! All in all, grand days! |
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MACH1
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 Feb 2020 : 13:50:58
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thanks great info , got the trent map off the crompton lock man
we drove there , planing to do the trip this summer, got the danforth
advise last year , watched the you tube trips , all we need now is the courage to do it
thank again
doug x sandra
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df
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 Feb 2020 : 15:33:39
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If timed right there's nothing really to be afraid of just a big river to respect, the anchor bit is only for if you run into mechanical problems along the way.
Do the trent maps from the lockie show the shoals? The rippon motor boat club ones do.
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