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MACH1
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 14 Dec 2019 : 15:06:38
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I HAVE A NORMAN 23 WITH A 20NP OUTBOARD I AM ON THE RIVER WITHAM
IS IT SAFE TO GO FROM BOSTON ALONG TO THE RIVER NENE OR DO I GET A PILOT
ALSO HAS ANYONE DONE THE CONECTION FROM THE NENE TO THE OUSE
ADVISE PLEASE
DOUG
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trevork
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Posted - 14 Dec 2019 : 16:22:20
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| I can't see any reason why this should not be safe if done sensibly. We have folk on here that are much more experienced than me who I hope will comment! Flinty?? |
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df
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14 Dec 2019 : 19:20:28
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Stop shouting (not a dig but check caps lock).
If I sound condescending I appologise but I don't know your knowledge or experience, I'm also a bit pi55ed....
The wash is not the bucket shaped inland expanse of water that it looks like on maps, a proper chart will show it to be a soggy sandpit at best with some serious tidal influences, due to the shape of the north sea and norfolk getting in the way the tide piles in there fiercly and get the wind blowing the other way and you have some serious lumpy water to deal with, I have done big tailstands in an RLM31 with twin diesels in the freeman channel with wind against tide.
Don't do it this time of the year as way too unpredictable weather, if you get it wrong with a N23 and 20hp you are in serious trouble with lifeboats unable to reach you due to lack of depth but get it right it can be a nice adventure.
If you can do it over high water you can go direct (knowledge of wash 10 years old, check with others) but there are large sand banks in the way and it's a long way to go up through the freeman channel and back down towards the nene which is what you would have to do over a low water, this would probably also involve sitting at anchor till the next flood tide, a lot of experienced narrowboats go agound on roger sand and head back in on the next tide but you need good info.
The link from nene to ouse is safe as long as not in high rainfall times as the middle level is for drainage not navigation hence the lack of licence fee, if they start pumping you will know about it, give marmont priory lock advence notice as it is privately owned and in someones front garden(I kid you not).
You need a nice settled high pressure for the best part of a week to consider it in that boat, the weather 2 days before can still effect the sea state if it's been windy from the wrong direction, to do the direct route at high water you need to determine if you can make way against the tide on the way in and out (I have only ever done it with the tide not against so can't advise)and there's nowhere to stop and moor if you can't make the full trip lock to lock in the one tide, the rivers are steep mud banks (there may now be a pontoon at sutton bridge but I'm not sure), once over the bar at tabs head on a falling tide there is no option of going back in till the next tide.
Don't undertake the trip on a whim, I've experienced a tidal range of 7.5 metres at kings lynn!
Do you know anyone with a flatbed truck and a hiab?
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df
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14 Dec 2019 : 19:57:35
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A few extra bits to throw in, don't think about it without lifejackets, inshore flare pack, vhf (proper one not a handheld), and an anchor, not one of the toy grapnell things with a bit of rope attached but something like a 10kg danforth with 5m of chain and 20m of rope at least.
And a gps with all the up to date bouyage marked on it (they change often as the channels move), remember batteries do die and a paper chart should always be the backup, keeping a regular log means if the gps dies you can mark where you were recently with a heading and speed to do some dead reconing navigation but this will not take into account tidal vectors.
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IanM
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14 Dec 2019 : 20:44:08
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I can summarise.
Dave says, "No, get a pilot". |
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MACH1
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 Dec 2019 : 11:34:46
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Thanks great info sounds to scary for me , how do you get a pilot and cost? even if i had a sea going boat it sounds frightening
sorry for the caps i couldnt find my glasses
doug
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df
United Kingdom
5994 Posts |
Posted - 15 Dec 2019 : 13:01:00
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For a boat that size it would probably just be better and much safer to get someone with a trailer, tonytugboats comes highly reccomended.
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RIVER NENE
