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DavidAshton
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 19 Sep 2019 : 12:14:11
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We had planned a trip on Saturday, loaded up, turned the ignition and nothing but a ‘click’
Ruined the day!
Took the battery home, charger it up - just tried it and it’s the same, I’m guessing it’s tje starter motor that’s gone.
So, is this easy to do? For an amateur, (and how do I get the right part) or is it best to leave it to the mechanics, only problem is they all seem to be ‘busy’ (they must be loaded these guys!!)
And if it’s best for them to do it, how much would it cost? Roughly? |
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trevork
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Posted - 19 Sep 2019 : 12:49:25
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I'm no expert David but I think starter motors are usually an exchange item so I would imagine they would give you like for like. As I recall they are reasonably easy to remove. Remind me what engine you have??
I used a haynes manual for my old Ford. Also, have you tried giving the starter motor body a sharp "tap" with a hammer?? Sometimes they get stuck! |
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df
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Sep 2019 : 13:14:12
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Depending on the starter there is often a black contactor on the end of the solenoid body that can be replaced on it's own much cheaper.
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DavidAshton
United Kingdom
53 Posts |
Posted - 19 Sep 2019 : 13:25:23
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It’s a Ford Enfield 130
Looks simple enough to replace the black end bit, when could I get one of those?
Read about the ‘tap with a hammer’, arm wasn’t long enough to try it so I need to take the wife down with me! |
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stratford4528
United Kingdom
414 Posts |
Posted - 19 Sep 2019 : 16:32:41
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| There are many reasons. It could be bad battery lead connections,the solenoid contacts,the carbon brushes in the starter worn out or sticking in the holders. To test the starter needs to come off and tested with jump leads off a battery. Then strip it down and give it a good clean IE the commutator, the brush holders, the brushes etc |
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df
United Kingdom
5994 Posts |
Posted - 19 Sep 2019 : 17:16:22
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If it's a lucas starter you can take of the end cap and check the contacts before replacing, a good cleanup may be enough to get it working.
Have you checked the leads are all tight at battery end, isolator, and starter end? I had one engine refuse to start earlier this year as I left it till last minute with a bridge lift booked, I was very relieved to find just a loose starter lead causing the issue.
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cliveshep
Thailand
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Posted - 21 Sep 2019 : 16:10:23
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A "click" often indicates poor connections somewhere, start with the battery and make sure the connections are clean and tight. Check all the heavy leads live and earth that connections are clean and tight.
On a boat more than a car Vaseline is your friend - copious amounts slathered all over the battery terminals will stop acid corrosion - battery fumes are enough to do it over time.
Then is nothing get a spanner or heavy screwdriver and short across the solenoid terminals - if the thing then starts it's solenoid and they can be swopped with any 12 volt solenoid of any scrapyard car.
If still no go - take out the starter motor and check it - will it spin if connected to the battery, if it does, is the bendix free running up the shaft because it cannot engage with the flywheel ring gear if it isn't moving up.
Last resort - a Lucas exchange unit or a second hand one from the on-line breakeryard.com - they are really good, give them your details, tell them what you want - all on-line of course - and they ask umpteen scrappies to send you prices and availability if any of them have what you need. All parts are warranted, usually for 3 months, and are delivered. You just choose the price that appeals to you.
Example, I had a couple of Pajero's - not cheap cars to replace turbo's or air-con compressors on, both items costing over £1000 but from breakeryard £40 and in the car in daily use for 3 years until I sold both cars. Give them the starter model number and what ford engine it came off but starters are most often fairly generic.
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IanM
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 Sep 2019 : 04:52:12
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| Or take it to an auto-electrician. |
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DavidAshton
United Kingdom
53 Posts |
Posted - 23 Sep 2019 : 16:15:10
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Hi Guys
Any help grateful!
As usual its never simple - went down today to take the part off to get replacement - but I couldn't get it off!
See attached pic - seems to not want to come off - anyone have any ideas?
Thanks in advance!
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df
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 Sep 2019 : 17:09:01
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That's not a starter I recognize so scrub the bit about the black end cap coming off, it may not be such an easy replacement.
Best advice is to remove the whole thing and take to an auto-electrics place.
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DavidAshton
United Kingdom
53 Posts |
Posted - 23 Sep 2019 : 19:53:04
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Hiya
That’s what I mean, I can’t get it off!! |
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df
United Kingdom
5994 Posts |
Posted - 23 Sep 2019 : 21:29:34
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The more I look at that piccie the more I think I'm looking at an ignition coil not a starter motor, petrol engine by any chance?
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IanM
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 Sep 2019 : 05:05:32
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David, can you take a few more pics and zoom out a bit?
Like df I'm looking at that and thinking it's not the starter motor. It's hard to scale from the pic but I think that might be the solenoid.
I really want to see what is just to the right of that picture where the chunky red cable is attached.
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df
United Kingdom
5994 Posts |
Posted - 24 Sep 2019 : 08:12:36
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Ignition coil....
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DavidAshton
United Kingdom
53 Posts |
Posted - 24 Sep 2019 : 08:34:02
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Ahhhhyou guys are good
That is the ignition coil
Will go back and get the starter motor, I know where that is now!!
By the way, why are boat engineers such hard work? They don’t answer emails or phone calls, and won’t help and are always ‘too busy’ if they are always busy why not employ more people they must be minted!! |
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df
United Kingdom
5994 Posts |
Posted - 24 Sep 2019 : 08:45:21
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They are like plumbers and builders, if they can do the job straight away they are worth avoiding, they are not busy for a reason.
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Starter Motor
