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DavidAshton

United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 Apr 2019 :  19:08:54  Show Profile Send DavidAshton a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Went out for a lovely trip along the Thames at the weekend in the sun, we moored up along the way and I noticed water in the floor, just a drop, but opened the small hatch at the back of the boat where you can see the engine and mainly the fan belt, there was water in there, not loads but enough to worry me, I scooped a load of it out using a cup and decided to investigate another day

So, is this a big problem? Would it have a bilge pump that’s failed maybe? Or could it just be a build up from the winter?

Any ideas?

Sailsy

United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 Apr 2019 :  22:37:10  Show Profile Send Sailsy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So i take it Dave you never looked before the Journey?

My inboard has been removed from my Norman 23 and i get a little water in there over the winter during these summer months its bone dry, my theory is its rain water but i'm no expert!

Edited by - Sailsy on 25 Apr 2019 22:38:02
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trevork

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Posted - 26 Apr 2019 :  00:45:15  Show Profile  Visit trevork's Homepage Send trevork a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just as Dave says Dave !!! My 23 had an Enfield outdrive and any water I found was rain water. I did put a bilge pump at the lowest point I could find in the engine bay with a manual switch and just gave it an occasional burst!
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DavidAshton

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Posted - 26 Apr 2019 :  11:43:37  Show Profile Send DavidAshton a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've seen water / oily sludge in there before but not as much as there was on this trip, I don't think it was there before the trip it was during, there's no more water since the trip - I did open it up at one point and thought maybe it was that. its an inboard and theres no way of water getting in there to be honest. i've bought a mini pump to clear it completely so I'll see how I get on
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df

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Posted - 26 Apr 2019 :  12:59:51  Show Profile  Visit df's Homepage Send df a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Raw water leak from the engine or weed strainer?
If you give it a good clean out put oil absorbant pads under the engine and it's a lot easier to keep clean and the whole boat smells better for it, I've been on many boats where the oil/diesel smells hit you as you approach and lots think that's normal, I've not had it on either of my inboard boats and my current setup has two big volvos under the saloon floor and still no smells.
The pads also mean you only pump water over the side and not oil.

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Fred

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Posted - 27 Apr 2019 :  11:26:46  Show Profile Send Fred a Private Message  Reply with Quote
David said "its an inboard and theres no way of water getting in there to be honest."

You'd be surprised how the tiniest undetectable leak, perhaps from a loose fitting, can allow water from rainfall to build up at the lowest point in the hull after some time. Even when you think you've dried everything out, water collected elsewhere will find its way to the lowest point after sloshing about during a trip.

DF's advice on the oil-absorbent pads is good but also buy a pack of cheap disposable nappies and place one or two at the point where you are seeing water. Change after each trip until the bilge is completely dry then leave one in place to see if problem recurs.
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df

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Posted - 27 Apr 2019 :  11:37:26  Show Profile  Visit df's Homepage Send df a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And chalk dust is great for finding where it's coming from! I usually carry a can of developer spray (used for dye penetrant crack testing) as it leaves a fine film of dust and makes water tracks stand out nicely.

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cliveshep

Thailand
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Posted - 01 May 2019 :  05:29:56  Show Profile Send cliveshep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Check around the engine! Core-plugs, perished hoses, water pumps - if it is indirect cooled you'll have the one on the front of the timing cover area and one belt-driven for raw sea water, sea-cock and connections, injection elbow - where cooling water is injected into the exhaust elbow, prone to rust, calorifier if you got a hot-water system engine heated, all of the above can bring in water apart from rainwater getting in from almost anywhere.



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