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fitvit

United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Jun 2016 :  23:28:30  Show Profile Send fitvit a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry to keep bunging up this site with my woes . . .but not sorry enough to stop lol. Your fault for being such a helpful lot!

I'm happy to report that all gold paint and yellow gloss has been removed (along with finger nails, knee cap skin, elbow skin and finger prints) However, the last bit uncovered a nasty crack held together with tape. This isn't a photo of my boat *god dam it* but its just to give you an idea of where my crack is. My crack (for want of a better word lol) goes right through and has split that section completely in two. Now that I'm a fibre glassing queen I'm assuming I would 'glass' it underneath to stitch it back together and then layer it up to strengthen it , but would I glass it ontop too which I'm assuming would then involve sanding and painting.

I've managed to get rid of all that gold friggin' paint without sanding specifically so that I could keep the gel coat and have been thwarted at the finish line. Is there anyway of repairing the exterior so that I don't have to paint this section?




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fitvit

United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Jun 2016 :  23:33:28  Show Profile Send fitvit a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In fact I've found this not so great photo of it.

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Deano

United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Jun 2016 :  01:20:53  Show Profile  Visit Deano's Homepage Send Deano a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Without seeing it close up it's tricky, but....

It looks to be in a generally non structural part of the boat. I guess its fairly thin and the boat has taken a hit int he past in a lock??

I would glass it on the inside to connect it back together and replace the strength. The outside should be gel coated and colour matched - but you can probably get away with tidying the edges and making cosmetically good with some Gel coat filler. If it looks a dogs dinner when you have finished..... put a nice sticker over it!!!

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fitvit

United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Jun 2016 :  08:01:06  Show Profile Send fitvit a Private Message  Reply with Quote
oooohhhh I like the sticker idea. I could stick my 'L' plate there!
I've cleaned it up now so I'll try and get a better photo later.

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df

United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Jun 2016 :  08:58:42  Show Profile  Visit df's Homepage Send df a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A nice stainless steel plate would probably cover it and not look too out of place.



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cliveshep

Thailand
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Posted - 06 Jun 2016 :  13:00:59  Show Profile Send cliveshep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Non- structural up to a point, but with hood down it is conceivable you might step on it if moored stern-to so make your repair one sided, feathering right back, and taking the repair at least 8 inches 20cm either side of the split and build up say 3-4 layers, 1st layer say 250mm long, 2nd say 350mm long and final layers longer again. That should spread the bond across a decent area. All using bi-directionsl weave of course , csm is far too mucky.

Dave's idea of a piece of stainless plate is not a bad one, you could have a piece of tube welded onto it to make a purpose made jackstaff holder (flag mast). You would only need 1.5mm thick stuff "pop" rivetted on using stainless rivets long enough to take a little stainless washer behind.


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IanM

United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Jun 2016 :  21:40:06  Show Profile Send IanM a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I must be on the wrong website. Who are all you people and what have you done with the usual reprobates who would not have been able to resist the golden opportunity for innuendo, jokes and puns about cracks? (Wise-cracks???)

Anyhow, it's hard to see the extent of the damage from that piccy. Scrap that flaky stuff off and get us some better pics from inside and out. It would not be the end of the world if you had to do an improvised repair and then paint over just that little bit. Go for the stainless cover plate or get creative with the paint:



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fitvit

United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Jun 2016 :  22:56:55  Show Profile Send fitvit a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've got a better photo of my crack! lol


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fitvit

United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Jun 2016 :  00:39:04  Show Profile Send fitvit a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So I know how to do the repair underneath using the bi-axial cloth etc. Do I then sand the crack to open it up/clean it up a bit, fill with marine filler and then spread some gel coat on it and sand it down with some 150 wet n dry?

. . . . if it looks **** sticker her up

jojo
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cliveshep

Thailand
1324 Posts

Posted - 07 Jun 2016 :  01:20:47  Show Profile Send cliveshep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ian is a bit naughty - go stand in the corner Ian!

Nothing to be gained by cleaning the ends of the crack as the surface area is too small.

Clamp it together after cleaning it to ensure it lines up correctly, put a small "stitch" of glass on the back to hold it, when hard remove clamps and finish the glassing in. No need to wait for each coat to harden, just keep going until done.

If you are going for a sticker - sand and fill the outside, otherwise gell-coat filler if you can find a colour match - doubtful - or: considering the small amount of transom left on view; consider painting the whole of it?


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df

United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Jun 2016 :  08:17:21  Show Profile  Visit df's Homepage Send df a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Looks like someones had the outboard kick up while reversing too hard at some point.
Go for the stainless plate, there's plenty of little engineering shops about that will cut a bit to size and fold it on a pressbrake for a couple of quid, you have the advantage over most of us blokes and will probably get it done for free, the trick is never use the reception/office door always walk in through the workshop door for small job on the cheap.



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cliveshep

Thailand
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Posted - 07 Jun 2016 :  14:17:08  Show Profile Send cliveshep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by df

........... you have the advantage over most of us blokes and will probably get it done for free, the trick is never use the reception/office door always walk in through the workshop door for small job on the cheap.



Dave was too shy to finish - "especially if wearing a mini skirt and a winning smile"

I'll get my hat shall I?






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df

United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Jun 2016 :  14:31:04  Show Profile  Visit df's Homepage Send df a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I didn't say that because I've tried it and it didn't work....



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Deano

United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Jun 2016 :  17:15:30  Show Profile  Visit Deano's Homepage Send Deano a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by df

Lkick up while reversing too hard at some point.




OK... I'll bite.....

"There is nothing worse than a problem with your crack when reversing on hard!"

Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse.
Freeman 32 "Liberty"
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fitvit

United Kingdom
94 Posts

Posted - 08 Jun 2016 :  17:08:46  Show Profile Send fitvit a Private Message  Reply with Quote
NOTE TO SELF

Steer clear of Deano.

He likes biting cracks

jojo
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Andywood

United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 Jun 2016 :  16:19:11  Show Profile Send Andywood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The metal plate sounds the best way of protecting your crack Jo. Like a chastity belt in reverse.....joining Clive in the corner.....
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