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flojim123
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 03 Apr 2016 : 18:12:02
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| Hi all has any body got a pump out toilet on a Norman 20 I am looking for info on how to fit one if it is possible thanks |
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Deano
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 Apr 2016 : 18:42:29
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There's not a lot of room for a useable sized tank and the hoses......... you would be better off getting a portapotty.
Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse.
Freeman 32 "Liberty"
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df
United Kingdom
5994 Posts |
Posted - 03 Apr 2016 : 19:15:08
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I'm with Deano on this, emtying a portapotti isn't that big a hassle and it's free, the tank/loo/associated pipework/deck fittings for a pump out are quite expensive and you have to pay to empty it, the lack of room is a major consideration, and there is very often a smell from a holding tank system.
I'm fairly certain you'd regret it.
If you can't find somewhere to empty a portapotti you can always tip into a passing dawncraft or narrowboat, they won't mind as it'll increase the value.....
NBAS--The communal colostomy bag of the boating community.
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cliveshep
Thailand
1324 Posts |
Posted - 05 Apr 2016 : 14:12:23
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Talk to Lee Sanitation (Lee Sanitation Limited, Wharf Road, Fenny Compton, Warwickshire, CV47 2FE. Telephone: +44 (0)1295 70000 Fax: +44 (0)1295 770022
e-mail: sales@leesan.com ) but you will find out that there is no way you can accomodate a holding tank in a Norman 20 without sacrificing space and giving yourself a variable trim problem as the tank fills. However - for the benefit of others:
You can for about £130 buy a DIY pump-out kit, it's a bit of a messy and smelly procedure but so long as there is a pump-out station or disposal point in reach of your hose you can pump-out yourself. You'll need a deck-wash pump to pick up river water to hose things down after and also to flush the holding tank to avoid any solid build-up.
We used to do our own on the Ocean 30 but that had a massive holding tank under part of the dinette and at 10'6" beam didn't notice the weight - a Norman 20 is a very different kettle of fish but for guidance you could have a holding tank made that would fill completely your port-side cabin bunk and you'd still need to empty it on a 2-day cycle. Paying for pump-outs at £12-15 a time makes it expensive as no credit for silly little tanks.
At sea of course, simply pump out over the side! I don't advise attempting that in anything but a flat calm unless you have strong side rails as we did, stainless stanchions and a teak rail give security on a rolling vessel when you have both hands full of pump-out spanner and hose.
Finally living the dream!
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df
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Apr 2016 : 17:01:04
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Sod that Clive, mine comes straight out of the bottom (of the boat that is), on Leo I had the option to pump the tank out through the regular seacock, never used the tank in any case.
I could understand a proper sea toilet on a norman 20, that wouldn't be hard to do at all but you would need to be out of the water to fit the seacocks required, very much frowned upon on inland rivers and canals though.
NBAS--The communal colostomy bag of the boating community.
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stratford4528
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Apr 2016 : 22:59:36
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| I have fitted one on my 32. Made my own holding tank and fitted a 12 volt maceration pump and will carry a very long hose so I can pump it out my self. |
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cliveshep
Thailand
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Posted - 07 Apr 2016 : 12:43:34
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We were originally Thames based, then moved to the Great Ouse, then back again. Mostly we were Thames-based Dave, non-tidal and tidal work so had to have the pump-out. If we were based at say Chichester then we'd only want a sea-toilet but any inland waterway would require it sealed before letting us on. The Thames would physically check that is was sealed!
Never got on canals a lot - the Ocean was too big as was the Dutch steel boat before it with it's 3ft plus draught and deep keel. That one would have ploughed furrows through their puddle and both would stop at the first bridge! We managed to get the Ocean up to just past Guildford on the River Wey, every thing flattened on top and Summer water levels, but had arguments with the National Trust fools about it's size as they insisted it was a sea boat and had no business on their waterway. Load of rubbish of course as it was originally built to get brigs from Cowes to London without going round the Foreland and up the Thames but they said that was then and this is now and that thing completely fills the locks on it's own and takes up all the channel.
Finally living the dream!
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