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tinybirduk

United Kingdom
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Posted - 29 Mar 2015 :  18:40:21  Show Profile Send tinybirduk a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have just bought a Norman 23 as a first time boat owner and it wanders all over the place i have read on here you can fit foils to stop this. any advice will be greatly received.

tigtog

United Kingdom
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Posted - 29 Mar 2015 :  19:28:14  Show Profile Send tigtog a Private Message  Reply with Quote
some people put ballast in the bow area, seems to sort it.
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Knighty

United Kingdom
654 Posts

Posted - 29 Mar 2015 :  21:01:32  Show Profile Send Knighty a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If it's your first boat are you sure it's the boat ? When I had my first boat I weaved and wandered all over the place for the first weeks and cursed the thing until I got the knack of the steering. Was expecting it to be like a car but completely different with an engine pushing you along.
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tinybirduk

United Kingdom
16 Posts

Posted - 29 Mar 2015 :  21:33:16  Show Profile Send tinybirduk a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's the first boat i've owned but not the first boat i've driven. i'm quite used to outboards though normally powerful ski boats which can weave at very low speeds but this literally weaves from one bank to the other with very little movement of the motor.

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If it's your first boat are you sure it's the boat ? When I had my first boat I weaved and wandered all over the place for the first weeks and cursed the thing until I got the knack of the steering. Was expecting it to be like a car but completely different with an engine pushing you along.

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deano362

United Kingdom
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Posted - 29 Mar 2015 :  21:35:39  Show Profile Send deano362 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well said,i was exactly the same and if you are that new was it the last few days you've been out? only asking cos it has been a bit windy lately..which makes it a nightmare too

roger
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tinybirduk

United Kingdom
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Posted - 29 Mar 2015 :  21:46:54  Show Profile Send tinybirduk a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've been on it for a week roger i've had to bring it 72 miles and more locks than i ever want to see again. it was very windy on saturday but not over windy before that. Maybe i just need more practice at lower speeds

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Well said,i was exactly the same and if you are that new was it the last few days you've been out? only asking cos it has been a bit windy lately..which makes it a nightmare too

roger

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Knighty

United Kingdom
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Posted - 29 Mar 2015 :  22:22:53  Show Profile Send Knighty a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As mentioned try a bag..or two of pea gravel central in a bow locker.
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Steve T

United Kingdom
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Posted - 29 Mar 2015 :  22:35:12  Show Profile Send Steve T a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Stick with it. I've had my N23 for 3 years now and am just about keeping it straight in a cross wind.
I would love to have a little more control at very slow (mooring) speeds, but I think that says more about my confidence than the boat handling.
You can get a "Rudder Safe", which is a set of plates that bolt to the motor to provide more steerage, but I've pushed past this and slowly learned to characteristics of the boat in various conditions.
You could always pay for an "own boat" close handling RYA course - not cheap, but you will learn your own boat, rather then the theory.
Keep the faith!
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tinybirduk

United Kingdom
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Posted - 30 Mar 2015 :  09:11:27  Show Profile Send tinybirduk a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Will do i'll keep you posted. Thanks for the advice.

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As mentioned try a bag..or two of pea gravel central in a bow locker.

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merlin

United Kingdom
400 Posts

Posted - 31 Mar 2015 :  13:54:34  Show Profile  Visit merlin's Homepage Send merlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Had this problem too and tried a few things like ballast at the front
but I must admit the rudder extension seemed to work better
made the boat more responsive having said that there is a knack
to be learned with low powered slow boats
I also fitted one off these steering knob things
great when you get caught out with the wind, you can spin the
wheel fast without removing a finger




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flojim123

United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Apr 2015 :  16:36:15  Show Profile Send flojim123 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Get the stainless still rudder extension which bolts on just above the cavitation plate this helps a lot
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tinybirduk

United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Apr 2015 :  21:36:49  Show Profile Send tinybirduk a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've been looking at these rudder extensions and like the sound of them.Having said that i've been out on her today and found the whole motor was loose on the transom a quick tighten up and she seems to be a lot more responsive
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Get the stainless still rudder extension which bolts on just above the cavitation plate this helps a lot

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tinybirduk

United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Apr 2015 :  21:40:36  Show Profile Send tinybirduk a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm thinking this may be the way to go

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Originally posted by merlin

Had this problem too and tried a few things like ballast at the front
but I must admit the rudder extension seemed to work better
made the boat more responsive having said that there is a knack
to be learned with low powered slow boats
I also fitted one off these steering knob things
great when you get caught out with the wind, you can spin the
wheel fast without removing a finger






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df

United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 Apr 2015 :  08:32:14  Show Profile  Visit df's Homepage Send df a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Have you tried the steering after drinking more beer, it always helps...



NBAS--The communal colostomy bag of the boating community.
Visit leomagill.co.uk
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merlin

United Kingdom
400 Posts

Posted - 02 Apr 2015 :  12:21:46  Show Profile  Visit merlin's Homepage Send merlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by df

Have you tried the steering after drinking more beer, it always helps...



NBAS--The communal colostomy bag of the boating community.
Visit leomagill.co.uk


That's just moving the ballast from one end to the other he he




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