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Florian

United Kingdom
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Posted - 14 Feb 2015 :  00:39:55  Show Profile Send Florian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hello fellow Norman enthusiasts,
I bought a 23 last week and was told it had a sea toilet that was OK to use on the Broads. I now know it isn't OK to use on the Broads and so have asked that it be removed. Although there is some doubt that it is a sea-toilet- Needless to say there's a tank under one of the dinette seats which requires pumping out,( a black-water tank I think it is) the fluid from which is pumped up through the toilet bowl to empty the bowl and another pipe to the river so that water can be pumped through to the toilet bowl rim for a 'flush' effect.
I am happy to use a bucket and public toilets but wondered if you might recommend an alternative - preferably chemical-free. While I am here; Would I be correct in thinking the metal tank that will be removed is worth about £100 - or does that figure apply to the clean water tanks only.
Many Thanks, Florian.

df

United Kingdom
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Posted - 14 Feb 2015 :  10:11:58  Show Profile  Visit df's Homepage Send df a Private Message  Reply with Quote
'pumped up through the toilet bowl' doesn't sound right, can you post a piccie of it?
If it has to be pumped out it's not a sea toilet and perfectly allowable on the broads, there may be a diverter valve somewhere that allows for direct discharge(as a sea toilet), sea toilets are still allowed on the broads on sea going boats, I have one on mine with diverter valve and tank option, normally a pumpout fitting would be on the deck along with a rinse fitting.
If you realy don't like it the standard portapotti isn't that bad once you get used to the idea of emptying it just make sure you keep your thumb on the vent button to stop it splashing back.
Some big sea going cruisers use a tank on the rivers and pump it out on breydon water on an outgoing tide which is very frowned upon but not sure it's banned.



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cliveshep

Thailand
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Posted - 21 Feb 2015 :  13:58:42  Show Profile Send cliveshep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It sounds from your description that hyou boat has pump-out fitted.
If so you should have an outlet for pump out osmewhere, maybe on the side deck.

Google Lee Sanitation - they do a lovely DIY kit you can use to pump out the holding tank down any sanitation station with a facility within reach of your hose. After a few times it has paid for itself with savings on commercial pump-outs or purchased token-in-slot diy ones.


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Deano

United Kingdom
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Posted - 21 Feb 2015 :  18:09:40  Show Profile  Visit Deano's Homepage Send Deano a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A "Sea Toilet" is a poor and misleading description..... and not clear when it comes to Broads legislation.

A "Pump Out Toilet" would be a better description. What happens to the poo after it is pumped is important.- especially to you.

On a "Sea Going" boat the toilet would pump directly overboard, usually out of a skin fitting under water. This is what is NOT permitted on the Broads.

What many inland cruisers have is a holding tank. A large tank where the poo gets pumped to and stored. This is usually under a bunk, hidden somewhere. At a later date.... when it is full, or preferably before!!!! it is all slurped out using a special suction pump at a boat yard. This pump fits into a circular deck fitting and empties the tank directly.

Some boats... (like mine) have a 2 way valve and can select either route.....
Hope that helps......

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Florian

United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 Feb 2015 :  22:16:55  Show Profile Send Florian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Many thanks - I am grateful for your taking the time to reply - Yes there is a tank, under the dinette seat - pongy.
The firm that sold us the boat are removing it so I'm researching what to have instead. I shall start with a bucket and public facilities. Any recommendations? Best Wishes, Florian
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