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fred99

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Posted - 12 Oct 2013 :  17:20:18  Show Profile Send fred99 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I went yesterday to look at my new project. It's not ready for me to collect until next weekend as there's still some work to do on the trailer.

I took some pictures which I'll attach and I think you'll agree it needs a lot of work doing.

First job will be to remove everything, repair any marks and scrapes etc and paint it white.

I'll be keeping this thread updated and asking LOTS of questions along the way.

Here's how it looks right now.









Wayfoot

United Kingdom
109 Posts

Posted - 12 Oct 2013 :  18:18:17  Show Profile Send Wayfoot a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This brings back so many good memories for me. I was in your shoes 2 years ago when I bought my N20. It was in a similar state and when you first start to strip everything out you think to yourself "what the hell have I got myself into", however don't let it put you off because these are great boats to work on, everything is quite simple.
The only thing you need plenty of is "inspiration" and that's were your fellow boaters come in.
Once you have finished and it goes back in the water, it is certainly worth the effort. My wife and I have had our first Summer in our boat this year and we have had a great time. So enjoy the refurb and look forward to a great finished boat that you can be proud of. Good luck and if you need any help, this site is where you will find it.
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Deano

United Kingdom
1843 Posts

Posted - 12 Oct 2013 :  23:14:27  Show Profile  Visit Deano's Homepage Send Deano a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The GRP doesn't look that bad in the photos.... have a go with some cutting compound and polish... try to avoid painting if you can.... it looks better and is easier to keep clean.

With the refit, keep everything... rotten wood can be used as templates... far easier when making replacement panels.

Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse.
Freeman 32 "Liberty"
See the photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/54758027@N00/
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stratford4528

United Kingdom
414 Posts

Posted - 12 Oct 2013 :  23:42:29  Show Profile Send stratford4528 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What system do you use to upload your photo,s.I have tried many times to upload but it never works. I have tried every option on photo bucket but nothing seems to work.
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mikeb

90 Posts

Posted - 13 Oct 2013 :  10:36:32  Show Profile Send mikeb a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stratford4528

What system do you use to upload your photo,s.I have tried many times to upload but it never works. I have tried every option on photo bucket but nothing seems to work.


With photobucket copy and paste the 'IMG' link for each picture.

That works for me. You can optionally delete the URL (and /URL) tags along with everything in the square brackets around URL. This stops it showing the image address link above the picture.

For example (click on reply with quote to see the html code):

[URL=http://s1359.photobucket.com/user/m-b6/media/norman20/1_zpsd692832c.jpg.html][/URL]

or

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fred99

69 Posts

Posted - 13 Oct 2013 :  20:27:47  Show Profile Send fred99 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks Wayfoot. Do you have any pics of your finished N20? Always good to be able to see what others have done to theirs to get some inspiration.

Deano, the grp isn't bad at all really. There's only a couple of bits that I would like to fill. My reason for painting would be to get it white rather than the cream colour it looks at the moment. I'm not sure whether that is due to effects of the weather etc or whether it was cream to start with. I've not seen any others that are cream so I'm guessing it's weather related. I've got a power polisher and any number of different cutting agents and polishes etc so I might give that a go first and see how it turns out before going down the repaint route.

Stratford 4528, I use photobucket and just copy n paste the image link into the post.

MikeB, Could you possibly measure the height of the windshield on your N20 please as it looks like I'm gonna be making my own seeing as the best quote I've had so far is £1200 to £1800.
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fred99

69 Posts

Posted - 27 Oct 2013 :  16:09:02  Show Profile Send fred99 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, I've been out to the boat today and spent ages getting water out of it. I could actually feel the water slapping about under the floor in the cockpit area. Is that normal, bearing in mind it had been outside for quite a while with no cover.

I've looked at the gelcoat and there are quite a few bits I want to fill so will be giving it a complete re-paint in white.

There's no gas at the moment and I'm undecided as to whether to fit a gas hob. There's a gas bottle locker with vent at the back but what do I need to install to meet regs? Does it have to be copper pipe or is rubber sufficient? Cut off valves needed etc?

The engine I will be using won't be one that charges the battery so I wondered what sort of set ups you guys use and how easy they are for diy installation. Shore hook ups, inverters etc. Or is a solar panel a good option for charging the battery?

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Knighty

United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Oct 2013 :  18:29:38  Show Profile Send Knighty a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Under the floor there are cross members with small drainage holes. When I bought my 20 the canopy had come adrift and left water under the floor. Got it out eventually. Main place it ran to was the bow, look under the bow locker top and you will see the cross members, I poked a stiff wire in the drainage holes and about a gallon of water shot out. Might be a case if you can to keep tilting boat stern to bow until it all runs to one end or other.
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Deano

United Kingdom
1843 Posts

Posted - 27 Oct 2013 :  19:05:43  Show Profile  Visit Deano's Homepage Send Deano a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Check out the Boat Safety Scheme website. Download a copy of the book.

Read it... that way you will not make any expensive mistakes.

Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse.
Freeman 32 "Liberty"
See the photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/54758027@N00/
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fred99

69 Posts

Posted - 27 Oct 2013 :  19:44:59  Show Profile Send fred99 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the info both of you.

I got most of the water out Knighty by putting a pipe under the access hatch by the driving seat and manually pumping it out. Filled 4 buckets.

I emptied the bow of water and it kept filling up slowly from a very small hole on one side. I didn't realise it was a drain hole, I thought I'd got a problem. I'll look and see if I can find anymore and clear them out.
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fred99

69 Posts

Posted - 02 Nov 2013 :  19:08:18  Show Profile Send fred99 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Went to the boat again today to do some work and spent most of the time removing water again. It's had a tarpaulin over it this time but was still full of water under the cockpit floor. I looked for drainage holes but couldn't see any.
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mikeb

90 Posts

Posted - 02 Nov 2013 :  21:28:54  Show Profile Send mikeb a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Are you sure you got all the water out of it last time? They're incredibly difficult to keep dry with a tarp, you pretty much need to cover the entire boat, and support it over the cockpit so it doesn't sag and pool with water.

I've just spent £40 on a new tarp today in an attempt to keep it dry.
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fred99

69 Posts

Posted - 07 Nov 2013 :  22:09:44  Show Profile Send fred99 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think I might just bite the bullet and get the windscreen frame finished, glazed and painted. Then get a brand spanking new canopy made.

I might then be able to keep it dry enough to renew all the crap, faced chipboard that's been so wet it's blown and expanded so it no longer fits.

What's the best thing to use? 15mm marine ply?

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Deano

United Kingdom
1843 Posts

Posted - 07 Nov 2013 :  23:00:24  Show Profile  Visit Deano's Homepage Send Deano a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No need to go as far as Marine ply... Far Easten is more than up to the job nad generally can be finished with varnish to quite an acceptable finish. (It's hard wood based)

Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse.
Freeman 32 "Liberty"
See the photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/54758027@N00/
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fred99

69 Posts

Posted - 08 Nov 2013 :  07:55:24  Show Profile Send fred99 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks Deano.

Got to get the rest of it out then get it dry before replacing everything.
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fred99

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Posted - 22 Nov 2013 :  20:30:06  Show Profile Send fred99 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've managed to get the boat stored under cover for a while which is a bonus.

There is still some water under the cabin floor though. Ive let the jockey wheel right down so the water goes to the bow locker but not much gets there.

It looks to me like a repair has been done at some point. Is this where the drain holes would be? Have they been filled in? Is it ok for me to drill a hole back towards the cabin in the cross member for the water to escape to the bow locker?

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