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merlin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 Oct 2013 :  10:41:13  Show Profile  Visit merlin's Homepage Send merlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Make a paper template and mail it guy's




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kev13

United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 Oct 2013 :  18:02:50  Show Profile Send kev13 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The alluminium one on the 20 photo looks like mine on the 23
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Wayfoot

United Kingdom
109 Posts

Posted - 16 Oct 2013 :  09:10:41  Show Profile Send Wayfoot a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Fredd99, I have sent you 6 x photo's of my Aluminium frames.
Hope they are of some use

' W '
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fred99

69 Posts

Posted - 16 Oct 2013 :  12:56:01  Show Profile Send fred99 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks Wayfoot. ive not received them yet but when I do I'm sure they'll be of great help.
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fred99

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Posted - 16 Oct 2013 :  19:46:14  Show Profile Send fred99 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
All pics received and they are a great help thanks.

I take it that the overhang/rebate on the outside of the front frame is 16mm in order to take the side frames?

Do the frames have rubber seals between them and do they have seals between the frames and the boat around the bottom?

One more question and I'm sorry to be a pain but could you possibly fill in the measurements on the drawing below.



By the way Sylk Lady looks transformed in the after pics. A job well done
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Wayfoot

United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 Oct 2013 :  11:46:21  Show Profile Send Wayfoot a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In a clockwise direction
480mm / 845mm / 415mm / 585mm

There is a rubber seal all the way around all sides of each window frame.
The rubber runs down the middle between the 2 separate frames.
Only problem with this is that I have not been able to identify the correct rubber to replace the original. I have re-used my original rubber but it dosent look as good as I would like...the search continues.


Edited by - Wayfoot on 20 Oct 2013 11:51:31
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fred99

69 Posts

Posted - 20 Oct 2013 :  12:51:44  Show Profile Send fred99 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks very much for that info. Very useful. I'm off to fetch the boat in an hour. Really looking forward to getting started.
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fred99

69 Posts

Posted - 21 Oct 2013 :  21:02:41  Show Profile Send fred99 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I made some templates today out of 18mm mdf using the measurements given. I cut the middles out to reduce weight and make it easier to move them around.

I must've got a couple of the angles wrong as when I placed them on the boat the top of the fronts touched but at the bottom there was a big gap. That lead me to think that the fronts were leaning too far back so the front angle of the side pieces must be wrong.

Only thing is, if I make that angle steeper it makes the 845 measurement longer

I can see this causing some serious headaches.







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greenmills1314

United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 Oct 2013 :  19:44:25  Show Profile Send greenmills1314 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Maybe stating the obvious but if you can make your templates a good fit why not copy them in hardwood frames mortised and tenoned and rebated to take tempered glass. Looks like you have the gear and workshop to do it. Secured with screws and sikoflex should be strong enough to hold the canopy.

Clanky tiff
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fred99

69 Posts

Posted - 22 Oct 2013 :  20:15:29  Show Profile Send fred99 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That's the plan now as a new aluminium frame with glass is gonna be silly money. The boat is stored 20 miles away from where I work in the workshop but I'm planning to try and scribe some templates to fit nicely then make some frames up. I don't want them to protrude past the lip at the side so I've only got about 16mm to play with which isn't much.
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fred99

69 Posts

Posted - 23 Oct 2013 :  20:02:03  Show Profile Send fred99 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wayfoot, have you tried this place for window seals?

http://www.littleportboathaven.co.uk/windows%20and%20rubbers.htm

They seem to do quite a few.
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fred99

69 Posts

Posted - 03 Nov 2013 :  20:20:51  Show Profile Send fred99 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Managed to get the frames to fit today.

Just a trial run to check that everything fitted ok and I'm happy that it does. A small amount of planing to do to get the tops of the fronts at the same level as the sides but nearly there.

I've got the rubber for the windows and also the insert and a trim to go around the top and bottom to stop water ingress.

It will have 6mm perspex windows.

It's made from 9mm marine ply and it will be secured to the boat with screws and all joints will be stuck with Sikoflex ebt and the 3 angle brackets as seen in the picture. It will be sealed, primed, undercoated and glossed the same as the rest of the boat.

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