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bonneville
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 20 Aug 2012 : 22:31:29
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Good evening folks,a new member needing help,we have just bought a conquest we've had it a week and are starting to find all the little problems that you don't see when first looking at the boat.
The main one is water ingress,on one part of the deck there is a little section of hairline cracks and the water puddles on top of them and leaks into the cabin,would painting over them do as a repair,also the rubber fender that runs all around the boat is in poor condition i was told to replace it with soft wood,any thoughts on that.
A little more about my Norman,she still has her gellcoat but its very dull,she has a little sink and a two ring cooker next to it.
The engine is a 9.9 Yamaha electric start,the previous engine was stolen while moored on the Leeds Liverpool canal,i have put her into private moorings,exspensive but safe.
One more thing that i'll ad is we've met a lot of realy nice people while working on the boat. |
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ken cattell
United Kingdom
192 Posts |
Posted - 20 Aug 2012 : 23:30:13
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Congrats on the Conquest purchase.
With regard to the water ingress via hairline cracks, clean out the algee completely, a strong solution of Ciff and a kitchen sponge/scourer will do using the green bit, wash off and allow to dry. Either work some Gel coat filler or Isopon 40 over the area. If the latter work it hard to get the glass into the gaps dragging off most of the fibre strands. let it set, smooth down and if needed (it may be near invisable at this stage either paint and polish ot just polish. Mer, Autogleam or similar.
I'm just completing my Conquest rebuid and will get round to putting an account/pictures on here after the relaunch, but e-mail me if you would like some ideas/pictures of what I've done to mine. I also have enough new spare rubbing strake to do another 20 footer/Conquest in white rubber with a black insert if you want to make me an offer for it plus delivery or your welcome to collect/ have a look over the boat.
Any other questions just ask away or search the forum a stunning amount of help, ideas and knowledge here.
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Lester Mayo
United Kingdom
289 Posts |
Posted - 21 Aug 2012 : 06:23:04
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Windows seem always to be a source of leaks also fittings are sometimes done poorly without butyl etc. Water travels so could be coming from another problem elsewhere.
Dont use softwood, hardwood or proper pvc rubbing strake.
Don't take life too serious, it's not permanent |
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df
United Kingdom
5994 Posts |
Posted - 21 Aug 2012 : 07:38:53
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Welcome to the nuthouse.
If the cracks are in star patterns it's probably just the gelcoat and not the source of the leaks, usually windows and vents leak but it comes through where the internal headlining moulding joins the hull looking like it's coming through the deck.
Stick to rubber fender strip, go for EPDM rubber as it doesn't leave black streaks when it rains like the cheaper stuff.
NBAS--The communal colostomy bag of the boating community.
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bonneville
United Kingdom
17 Posts |
Posted - 21 Aug 2012 : 20:44:33
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Thanks for the quick replys guys most helpful,regarding the rubbing strake i can salvage one side and put it around the bow and then put timber down the sides, i removed a damaged section and there were a lot of old screw holes and moss underneath, a probable source of water intake,so that will be the first job,second i think will be to reseal the windows easyer said than done i suppose.
Another question if you don't mind,do i need a horn as i can't see were one might have been fitted. |
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adi-n-chez
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21 Aug 2012 : 21:23:46
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Originally posted by bonneville
Thanks for the quick replys guys most helpful,regarding the rubbing strake i can salvage one side and put it around the bow and then put timber down the sides, i removed a damaged section and there were a lot of old screw holes and moss underneath, a probable source of water intake,so that will be the first job,second i think will be to reseal the windows easyer said than done i suppose.
Another question if you don't mind,do i need a horn as i can't see were one might have been fitted.
Yes - Get a Horn , even if an handheld air one - A blast on blind corners or bridges will help when there's a Sewer tube on route - They won't stop but a blast back will help you hit reverse & avoid a collision !
Also useful on bigger rivers (Aire n Calder / Trent) to announce your movements to commercial craft.
Adi
Sewer Tubes ? I'd rather have a D**ncr*ft (Only Kidding) |
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canalboy1949
United Kingdom
115 Posts |
Posted - 22 Aug 2012 : 08:37:14
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| I agree with Adi, a hand-held air horn is ideal, apart from anything else it makes you sound much bigger than you actually are! Also you don't need to worry about wiring it in. |
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bonneville
United Kingdom
17 Posts |
Posted - 22 Aug 2012 : 17:16:47
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Thanks,i like the idea of sounding bigger it might make them put their brakes on aswell haha, then a little old me comes tootling around the corner,imagine their face. |
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bonneville
United Kingdom
17 Posts |
Posted - 26 Aug 2012 : 12:33:03
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Well i think i have fixed one big leak,it was coming in the port side and pudling were the seat cushion sits cockpit end.We don't know if it was because we took the rubbing strake off or cleaning the algae out of the window but after some heavy rain overnight she was bone dry this morning.
The next job is the stainless rails on the bow they are ciliconed in but there is a little movement on them and you can see water squige when you give them a gentle tug,plus we dropped the bow inner lining and you can see the water staine,hey ho it sure beats sitting at home watching the telly. |
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cliveshep
Thailand
1324 Posts |
Posted - 27 Aug 2012 : 09:04:57
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Silicone is of little value on boats as after a time it tends to de-bond and allow water in.
Either use butyl bedding mastic - sold in strips by caravan suppliers - to bed fittings like cleats, fairleads, fender eyes, pulpit rails and the like, or bed on Polyflex HM (cheap) or same material/same properties - Sikoflex (expensive).
Be warned on both of those - anything bonded with them will be well nigh impossible to remove, and if you don't almost instantly remove excess the same applies.
That said - they are totally waterproof and bond beautifully - I bond Oak wheelhouse frames to top-sides with Polyflex where the mouldings are too thin for screws or bolts and they are rigidly attached within the hour. Ideal for permanent rubbing strake fitting.
The cost of boating is insignificant compared to costs of a young wife and two teenage kids! |
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kev13
United Kingdom
114 Posts |
Posted - 27 Aug 2012 : 14:06:56
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Ken
I've tried emailing you about the spare rubbing strake, did you get it
Kevin |
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bonneville
United Kingdom
17 Posts |
Posted - 27 Aug 2012 : 20:44:27
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| cliveshep,i read an article about butyl and it is on my list,i just have to persued my wife to get on her back in the bows and hold my nuts while i get on top and do some (un)screwing. |
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Deano
United Kingdom
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ken cattell
United Kingdom
192 Posts |
Posted - 28 Aug 2012 : 01:03:48
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| f.t.a.o Kev13, Yep got e-mail tonight, been camping on boat, hence delay, will reply via e-mail. |
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kev13
United Kingdom
114 Posts |
Posted - 30 Aug 2012 : 22:00:37
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Ken
Not sure if youo have had time to reply to my email yet but not recieved anything
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