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jud

United Kingdom
113 Posts

Posted - 29 Jul 2012 :  22:35:54  Show Profile Send jud a Private Message  Reply with Quote
hi folks,
my norman 32 was originally named River Dart, but the previous owners changed her name to Matilda.
Since I bought her we've had a run of bad luck and I'm thinking of changing it back to River Dart.
1: Is this wise?
2: How is it done?
Any advice much appreciated,
Jud

trevork

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Posted - 29 Jul 2012 :  23:06:08  Show Profile  Visit trevork's Homepage Send trevork a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Not much to it really Jud .....

Just this .....


"According to legend, each and every vessel is recorded by name in the Ledger of the Deep and is known personally to Poseidon, or Neptune, the god of the sea. It is logical therefore, if we wish to change the name of our boat, the first thing we must do is to purge its name from the Ledger of the Deep and from Poseidon’s memory.
This is an involved process beginning with the removal or obliteration of every trace of the boat’s current identity. This is essential and must be done thoroughly. I once went through the ceremony after the owner had assured me that every reference to his boat’s old name had been purged from her. A couple of weeks later, he discovered he had missed a faded name on her floating key chain. I advised him to start over, perhaps with a little extra libation for the ruler of the sea. Unfortunately, he declined. Since then, his boat has been struck by lightning, had its engine ruined by the ingress of the sea, been damaged by collision and finally sunk! It pays to be thorough.

In purging your boat, it is acceptable to use White-Out or some similar obliterating fluid to expunge the boat’s name from log books, engine and maintenance records etc., but it is much easier to simply remove the offending document from the boat and start afresh. Don’t forget the life rings and especially the transom and forward name boards. Do not under any circumstances carry aboard any item bearing your boat’s new name until the purging and renaming ceremonies have been completed! Once you are certain every reference to her old name has been removed from her, all that is left to do is to prepare a metal tag with the old name written on it in water-soluble ink. You will also need a bottle of reasonably good Champagne. Plain old sparkling wine won’t cut it.

Since this is an auspicious occasion, it is a good time to invite your friends to witness and to party.

Begin by invoking the name of the ruler of the deep as follows:

Oh mighty and great ruler of the seas and oceans, to whom all ships and we who venture upon your vast domain are required to pay homage, implore you in your graciousness to expunge for all time from your records and recollection the name (here insert the old name of your vessel) which has ceased to be an entity in your kingdom. As proof thereof, we submit this ingot bearing her name to be corrupted through your powers and forever be purged from the sea. (At this point, the prepared metal tag is dropped from the bow of the boat into the sea.)

In grateful acknowledgment of your munificence and dispensation, we offer these libations to your majesty and your court. (Pour at least half of the bottle of Champagne into the sea from East to West. The remainder may be passed among your guests.)

It is usual for the renaming ceremony to be conducted immediately following the purging ceremony, although it may be done at any time after the purging ceremony. For this portion of the proceedings, you will need more Champagne, Much more because you have a few more gods to appease.

Begin the renaming by again calling Poseidon as follows:

Oh mighty and great ruler of the seas and oceans, to whom all ships and we who venture upon your vast domain are required to pay homage, implore you in your graciousness to take unto your records and recollection this worthy vessel hereafter and for all time known as (Here insert the new name you have chosen), guarding her with your mighty arm and trident and ensuring her of safe and rapid passage throughout her journeys within your realm.

In appreciation of your munificence, dispensation and in honor of your greatness, we offer these libations to your majesty and your court. (At this point, one bottle of Champagne, less one glass for the master and one glass for the mate are poured into the sea from West to East.)

The next step in the renaming ceremony is to appease the gods of the winds. This will assure you of fair winds and smooth seas. Because the four winds are brothers, it is permissible to invoke them all at the same time, however, during the ceremony; you must address each by name.

Begin in this manner:

Oh mighty rulers of the winds, through whose power our frail vessels traverse the wild and faceless deep, we implore you to grant this worthy vessel (Insert your boat’s new name) the benefits and pleasures of your bounty, ensuring us of your gentle ministration according to our needs.

(Facing north, pour a generous libation of Champagne into a Champagne flute and fling to the North as you intone:) Great Boreas, exalted ruler of the North Wind, grant us permission to use your mighty powers in the pursuit of our lawful endeavors, ever sparing us the overwhelming scourge of your frigid breath.

(Facing west, pour the same amount of Champagne and fling to the West while intoning:) Great Zephyrus, exalted ruler of the West Wind, grant us permission to use your mighty powers in the pursuit of our lawful endeavors, ever sparing us the overwhelming scourge of your wild breath.

(Facing east, repeat and fling to the East.) Great Eurus, exalted ruler of the East Wind, grant us permission to use your mighty powers in the pursuit of our lawful endeavors, ever sparing us the overwhelming scourge of your mighty breath.

(Facing south, repeat, flinging to the South.) Great Notus, exalted ruler of the South Wind, grant us permission to use your mighty powers in the pursuit of our lawful endeavors, ever sparing us the overwhelming scourge of your scalding breath.

Of course, any champagne remaining will be the beginnings of a suitable celebration in honor of the occasion.

Once the ceremony has been completed, you may bring aboard any and all items bearing the new name of your vessel. If you must schedule the painting of the new name on the transom before the ceremony, be sure the name is not revealed before the ceremony is finished. It may be covered with bunting or some other suitable material."

Good luck!


Trevor
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jud

United Kingdom
113 Posts

Posted - 29 Jul 2012 :  23:48:33  Show Profile Send jud a Private Message  Reply with Quote
cheers Trevor I'll get that in the printer, but does Poseidon/Neptune/Davey Jones etc bother with the Aire and Calder nav?
It seems an awful waste of frog p.155 wouldn't a big carton of uht be good enough?
I can sort the ritual with my pet hippy, but I was wondering if crt(bw) have a special procedure
much respect
Jud
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ken cattell

United Kingdom
192 Posts

Posted - 30 Jul 2012 :  00:37:27  Show Profile Send ken cattell a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A fantastic reply Trev, much better that writing a boring letter to the EA or CRT or whatever they are called this week. At least you don't recommend wasting any decent beer on the job either! Having a party on the farm by the Thames soon for the re-launch of the Conquest formerly known as Legarto, this will just cap it all. Reckon I'll still write a letter to the EA though as a back up!
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Knighty

United Kingdom
654 Posts

Posted - 30 Jul 2012 :  09:29:35  Show Profile Send Knighty a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I just peeled the name stickers off and put my new name on, haven't sunk yet
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Peter Walker

United Kingdom
58 Posts

Posted - 31 Jul 2012 :  20:26:15  Show Profile Send Peter Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Check the following list, when I re-named my Norman last winter (from Freshwind to Kingfisher) I had to contact the following:
  • Avon Navigation Trust : in your case it may be the CRT - I wanted the licence on my boat to match her new name
  • My Insurers: They issued a new certificate with no problem
  • Boat Safety Examiner : for a small donation to his favourite charity he made an official alteration to my certificate (to be official it needs the official stamp)
  • Marina Owner : they like to be kept informed and it may be a condition of mooring
  • NBAS : when the website alterations are complete then it will be good to have the new name on the Register


Norman 22 on the river Avon, Warwickshire
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BoatForMyPotplants

United Kingdom
169 Posts

Posted - 31 Jul 2012 :  21:23:13  Show Profile  Visit BoatForMyPotplants's Homepage Send BoatForMyPotplants a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A subject that's come up just in time for me, as I'm thinking of what 'official' name to give A Boat For My Potplants. Thanks Trev for the comprehensive protocol lowdown.

So far the changing of names has only brought good luck. Fingers crossed and touch wood.

During its restoration I discovered under layers of paint that it was originally 'Tarka', then 'Solace', then painted over but with no name on it, but with the license name of 'Kingfisher'. Since then it's just called 'A Boat For My Potplants', but now's the time to paint a name on.

I was thinking of 'Erindoors', but 'Erindoors doesn't like that, surprisingly. So I think 'The Lady Jane' will be just right.

Neil
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adi-n-chez

United Kingdom
1980 Posts

Posted - 31 Jul 2012 :  21:33:27  Show Profile Send adi-n-chez a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BoatForMyPotplants

A subject that's come up just in time for me, as I'm thinking of what 'official' name to give A Boat For My Potplants. Thanks Trev for the comprehensive protocol lowdown.

So far the changing of names has only brought good luck. Fingers crossed and touch wood.

During its restoration I discovered under layers of paint that it was originally 'Tarka', then 'Solace', then painted over but with no name on it, but with the license name of 'Kingfisher'. Since then it's just called 'A Boat For My Potplants', but now's the time to paint a name on.

I was thinking of 'Erindoors', but 'Erindoors doesn't like that, surprisingly. So I think 'The Lady Jane' will be just right.

Neil



Hmmm - The Lady Jane in 'Our neck of the woods' refers to the queen of 9 days !!! She didnt have much luck - Maybe a different choice would be better ?

Adi

Sewer Tubes ? I'd rather have a D**ncr*ft (Only Kidding)
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Deano

United Kingdom
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Posted - 31 Jul 2012 :  21:49:36  Show Profile  Visit Deano's Homepage Send Deano a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As I see it, you only have two options:-
1. Boatformypotplants. - the obvious choice
2. Sell the space to a sponsor!!! I can't believe you haven't thought of that one!!

Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse.
Freeman 30 "Silver Gem"
See the photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/54758027@N00/
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Knighty

United Kingdom
654 Posts

Posted - 31 Jul 2012 :  22:12:53  Show Profile Send Knighty a Private Message  Reply with Quote
For the canopy JOSEPH or as Deano said something for your sponsors SuzuDuluxki
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BoatForMyPotplants

United Kingdom
169 Posts

Posted - 01 Aug 2012 :  07:40:54  Show Profile  Visit BoatForMyPotplants's Homepage Send BoatForMyPotplants a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You are geniuses (or should that be genii?). Why didn't I think of the sponsorship thingy? The problem I have in calling it "A Boat For My Potplants" is that it only makes gramatical sense if I am the one referring to it. But when it becomes a pirate radio station (all will be revealed in my next blog) I think I need a catchy feminine name that others can refer to, along the lines of Radio Caroline). I need to get my thinking cap on.

Neil
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