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 Hond 100 10hp outboard
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m4mike

United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 May 2012 :  10:51:22  Show Profile  Visit m4mike's Homepage Send m4mike a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Morning Normans,
I have at the moment an old Honda 100 10hp outboard on my Norman 23, what other type of engines are good for the boat, to be honest I don’t know if it’s a long or short shaft one.
I would like to get an electric start outboard as I’m fed up with doing the old pull start, anyone have one for sale, or any advice on the best type, long or short, what size HP, 2 stroke or 4 stroke etc, etc,
Thanks
Mike

Jimbo

United Kingdom
585 Posts

Posted - 23 May 2012 :  11:02:47  Show Profile Send Jimbo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Morning Mike, the way to go is for a long shaft 15 HP 4 stroke engine. They are quieter, more economical and less trouble than a 2 stroke, which incidently are not made any more. Four stroke engines are not cheap but with carefull shopping around you should find one.
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Knighty

United Kingdom
654 Posts

Posted - 23 May 2012 :  11:12:39  Show Profile Send Knighty a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Mike,depends really what kind of water you use. For inland i would have though 10hp minimum, ideally 15-20hp. I believe you would need a long shaft outboard for a 23.
Four stroke is the way to go personally pretty fuel efficient and no faffing around with mixing oil.
I had the same engine as you and like you i wanted electric start and my local mariner did me a good deal on a new 9.9 Mariner. As for best engines there are the usual Honda,Mariner,Suzuki and Yamaha etc you can get cheaper Hidea and Parsun.
I went with Mariner because my local marina are agents for them and the 5 year warranty.

Edited by - Knighty on 23 May 2012 11:14:26
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m4mike

United Kingdom
63 Posts

Posted - 23 May 2012 :  12:28:19  Show Profile  Visit m4mike's Homepage Send m4mike a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I forgot to add that the old Honda engine is a 4 stroke, and it will only be used on the Thames, I'll measure it over the weekend to see if it's a long or short shaft one, the main thing I could do with is a electric start, always a "Oh my word" to start from cold, but no problem when warm!
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Clive Steele

United Kingdom
73 Posts

Posted - 23 May 2012 :  20:03:10  Show Profile Send Clive Steele a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi,

Just in case you didn't know already, even if it looks like its no longer any use it will probably sell well to someone even as spares/ repair.

Clive Steele
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carpetbloke

United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 May 2012 :  05:39:32  Show Profile Send carpetbloke a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Honda 10 should be really easy to start by hand whether cold or hot.
My Honda 15 starts first pull whenever the battery has failed me.
Paul
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m4mike

United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 May 2012 :  09:37:09  Show Profile  Visit m4mike's Homepage Send m4mike a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Paul, it always seems to take several attempts to start it when it’s cold, get fed up with the priming, does the petrol run back down the hose? when it’s warm it’s no problem, just have to keep taking the rear seat out of the way then lifting the hatch up to get at it etc., just want an electric start on the dash, soooooooooo much easier.
Mike
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carpetbloke

United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 May 2012 :  07:26:40  Show Profile Send carpetbloke a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I agree electric start is best.
The priming bulb on mine goes solid in about 10 pumps max (halfhearted ones at that).
It`s sort of second nature after a while.
Petrol on, full choke,loadsa revs, starts first/ second occasionally, bang choke in quick.
If it didn`t start first time clean and gap plugs and next visit it starts first time.
To be honest though it never fails with a pull start it is so easy to turn over, unless I forget the immobiliser !
Paul.
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Knighty

United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 May 2012 :  08:25:30  Show Profile Send Knighty a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Might be best to replace the priming bulb as they have a non return valve built into them, sounds like it's passing fuel back to the tank. Even with an electric start outboard you still have to prime the fuel, but it is nice to start and have choke control etc from the helm seat.
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m4mike

United Kingdom
63 Posts

Posted - 27 May 2012 :  00:12:55  Show Profile  Visit m4mike's Homepage Send m4mike a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks everyone for the coments, the plugs were new from previous owner (still have old ones) taken out and checked and are fine.
been out today in the lovely weather, still a so and so to start from cold, seems to start better with no choke, runs fine and starts with no problem when hot, just from cold.
Carpet bloke, you say 'petrol on' is there somewhere to turn it on and off, there is some sort of air vent screw in the petrol can cap, should this be open or clossed?
Am looking for an electric start outboard, so if anyone has one for sale or knows someone, let me know, would like at least 15hp
Thanks people
Mike
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carpetbloke

United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 May 2012 :  05:28:24  Show Profile Send carpetbloke a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Open the vent cap on the tank.
The screw in the centre lets air in.
Always remember to close after use due to the petrol fumes.
The engine will become starved with the valve closed.
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m4mike

United Kingdom
63 Posts

Posted - 27 May 2012 :  12:04:49  Show Profile  Visit m4mike's Homepage Send m4mike a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks, only just noticed it had a air vent screw, will open when using and close when not.
Thanks
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