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lezz50

United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Dec 2011 :  09:39:46  Show Profile Send lezz50 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi all! hope every one,s had good one,With so many varnishes on the market which make and type do we choose,every one will have their
favourite could be the traditional varnashes like Blakes classic,International goldsparr,Joton or what about Le Tonkinois any good?
Then I think we have the single pack polyurethanes fast drying varnishes like international schooner,Blakes single pack, I dont want to touch the twin pack stuff!!!.
So its for internal use on brand new ply on my norman 20 I want a good varnish easy to apply, uv protection long lasting,and a good price, from what i can see on net, most tins are 750ml and are any thing from £15 t £20 and you can't seem to buy in 2.5lt tins.
my self I fancy the Le Tonkinois traditional or blakes singal pack this is only what information I have found on net.
Much help needed thanks for looking,regards Lezz.

Stan the Man

United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Dec 2011 :  10:54:11  Show Profile Send Stan the Man a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Lezz

For the internals on "Hunky 'B'", I've used Screwfix "No Nonsense Yacht Varnish" which I found produces and excellent gloss finish with a couple of coats. It is fairly thick so I used a brush to apply although you might be able to use a foam roller. Cost is £7.99 for 750 ml.

At home this year, I sanded the wood floor in the hall and applied four coats of Ronseal Diamond Hard Floor Varnish which, whilst not "marine" produced a superb finish (with a roller) and has proved very hard wearing.

I have found that any varnish or stain which is "quick drying" tends to be acrylic based and does not produce a high gloss/satin finish - although of course that might be my cackhandeness!

A price of £15 to £20 for 750ml sounds outrageous for a varnish - the "marine" effect perhaps?

Regards, Stan Owen
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trevork

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Posted - 27 Dec 2011 :  12:19:38  Show Profile  Visit trevork's Homepage Send trevork a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've used a few varnishes with various results. The Tonkinois produces superb results but its complicated to use and expensive!
I had the topsides of "Glenmore" sanded back and varnished by Brooms. They used International Compass which looks excellent so far!
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dave.c

United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 Dec 2011 :  11:20:17  Show Profile Send dave.c a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have various types and grades of wood, some previously varnished some new and natural. What I would ideally like to achieve is one colour throughout with a nice high gloss finish.

Firstly, is this possible without replacing all the old wood? I have sanded down but it still retains some of the old colour.

Secondly, which is the best option for re-varnishing. Would anyone recommend a pre-colourd varnish such as Ronseal Diamond Hard (mentioned above) or would it be better to stain the wood and apply a clear gloss varnish?

Thanks



www.normanboats.co.uk/Daves%20Quo%20Vadis%202.htm
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Deano

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Posted - 28 Dec 2011 :  14:16:46  Show Profile  Visit Deano's Homepage Send Deano a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Either way UV is going to be your greatest enemy. I have used wood stain on all my hardwood, then covered with Epifains marine varnish. This has UV protection as good as any varnish. Within 2 years or so, the wood will have returned to its previous colour.

'Marine' varnishes are worth the extra. They are designed for year round exterior use and to look good. If there was a cheep shortcut, some one would have found it by now.
If you use cheap varnish, skimp on preparation or number of coats you will be back to square one in 2 seasons and be doing the whole thing again.

For a pennoth o tar......!!

Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse.
Freeman 30 "Silver Gem"
See the photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/54758027@N00/
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lezz50

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Posted - 28 Dec 2011 :  15:15:19  Show Profile Send lezz50 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi all thanks for the feedback,I think I will begoing with the classic yacht varnish from Premier marine paints £9.59 for a 1 ltr tin.all my bullheads have been replaced checked for good fit and are in my garage waiting for 2/3 layers of varnish befor final fitting in boat then final varnishing.
i think a roller is wait to go, with foam brush to finnish of. Thanks for advise. Happy new year to all.
thanks lezz.
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Deano

United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 Dec 2011 :  16:29:51  Show Profile  Visit Deano's Homepage Send Deano a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A roller may be OK, but watch that it doesn't create lots of air bubbles in the varnish as you work. I found the best thing, short of a very expensive badger hair brush, is a foam 'jenny' brush. Use at 45 degrees to lay the varnish on and then at 90 degrees to tip it off.

Warming the varnish will help it flow much better this weather. Stand the tin in a bucket of hot water for an hour before you start.

Thin the first coat 50% with white spirit and the 2nd coat 25%. This will help it penetrate into the surface of the wood and give a longer lasting finish.

For the professional quality look, remove all dust from the surface of the wood, the brush and the environment before you start.

Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse.
Freeman 30 "Silver Gem"
See the photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/54758027@N00/
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trevork

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Posted - 28 Dec 2011 :  22:15:12  Show Profile  Visit trevork's Homepage Send trevork a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Two or three coats of 5 star cuprinol before you start on the varnish will also lengthen the life of your mahogany!
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