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Housy
United Kingdom
98 Posts |
 Posted - 18 May 2011 : 15:16:19
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Hi all, I have recently had a Propane gas supply fitted to a cooker on my 20' Norman Conquest (with Gas safety certificate) and I am wondering about fitting a gas point (plug and socket type) for 3 way powered portable cool box (12/240 volts and gas). Is it possible within the regs to have a gas point installed on the boat and indeed is it OK to run a fridge without a flu running external to the boat? I have scanned the regs but could not find anything that helps me?
The fridge I am think of taking in and out of the boat is here
http://www.caravanfridges.co.uk/camping-fridges/dometic-rc2200.htm
what do you think, is this possible?
thanks for your advice
Kev
Norman Conquest 'Pipe Dream'
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cliveshep
Thailand
1324 Posts |
Posted - 18 May 2011 : 16:48:30
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Possible if it takes and exhausts to outside with fully enclosed burner and/or pilot light, see BSS guidance on continuously burning appliances in a vessel with petrol engines. I assume your boat is outboard so a petrol engine which means that only the latest purpose designed for boats and complying with BSS fridge type will do.
I didn't pursue your link but you know what to look for.
The cost of boating is insignificant compared to costs of a young wife and two teenage kids! |
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Deano
United Kingdom
1843 Posts |
Posted - 18 May 2011 : 23:32:43
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No. Not compliant in any way if running on gas.
It has a pilot light and it is not room sealed. Therefore it cannot be used on a petrol engined boat.
12V OK, but will mince your battery. 240V OK, but you need shore power.
Sorry to be the doom monger.... that's just the way it is.
The only solution is a compressor fridge and good battery management.
Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse.
Freeman 30 "Silver Gem"
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df
United Kingdom
5994 Posts |
Posted - 19 May 2011 : 07:50:03
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If you are yet to buy a fridge go for 12v compressor, no battery management needed as they are great on power usage as long as you cruise for a few hours during the day.
Waeco do a drawer fridge that can be fitted under a seat but you need a cupboard beside to take the compressor which can be mounted seperately (although they can't all be un-coupled, you have to unbolt and be carefull with the pipes).
This was the fridge in my old norman 25.
NBAS--The communal colostomy bag of the boating community.
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nigel-in-oxford
United Kingdom
643 Posts |
Posted - 19 May 2011 : 09:40:56
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Yes those Waeco fridges are good, I have the portable WAECO COOLFREEZE CDF25. As long as I run the engine for 3-4 hours every day, no problems.
A chap had a gas fridge (2 moorings down from mine) and a petrol engine.
As he was getting ready for the start of the season( a couple of years back) and lit the fridge.......BOOM! one sunk boat, lots of pollution. The owner was OK just a bit red faced (and arms and legs etc. )
Seamaster 20 captain "Chronophage" (Time eater)
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Ollie Ollman
United Kingdom
196 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2011 : 21:24:57
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Totally agree That "Fridge" on gas would not comply on a petrol boat - Infact there is no current manufacturer of gas fridges willing to state their fridge is suitable for marine use !!! The older electrolux only pass if fitted as a sealed flue unit on petrol boats - and they're like hens teeth
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consumedbynature
United Kingdom
108 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2011 : 09:35:50
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Do the compressor fridges make a noisy racket like the compressors that pump your tyre?
Thanks Billy
Shetland 640 - Jessica Marie - Worcestershire Avon |
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Deano
United Kingdom
1843 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2011 : 09:50:15
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No, we have one in the main cabin and they are really quiet. I do tend to turn mine off at night, it is usually when they switch off that you notice it. I turn it off to save batterys more than anything.
Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse.
Freeman 30 "Silver Gem"
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trevork
3949 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2011 : 21:41:34
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| There is/was a version of the small waeco one that had an "accumulator" which was basically a block that froze while you ran during the day then pressed a button at night and it switched off for as long as the block kept the temp down. Ususally went all night on mine. |
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adi-n-chez
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21 May 2011 : 21:48:57
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Trev
Which was the model of your accumulator fridge - Been talking to a chap restoring a 23 who is interested in that particular model
Adi
Sewer Tubes ? I'd rather have a D**ncr*ft (Only Kidding) |
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trevork
3949 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2011 : 22:43:39
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| It was the 40 litre one that did a neat swap for the old electrolux. Just had a peek on the waeco website and there is no mention of an "accumulator" type anymore sadly. |
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df
United Kingdom
5994 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2011 : 13:18:37
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I think isotherm do a kit with accumulator that you can build into an insulated locker or cupboard, compressor can be 1.5 metres away.
The compressors are very quiet, mine is under the cockpit floor and I never hear it at all.
NBAS--The communal colostomy bag of the boating community.
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Deano
United Kingdom
1843 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2011 : 16:14:18
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I stuff the freezer compartment with a few freezer blocks and they freeze during the day and stay cold at night.
Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse.
Freeman 30 "Silver Gem"
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