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a11night
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 09 May 2007 : 19:01:52
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oh dear i'm more confused now than when i started this post.
Trevor i have been looking at the waeco fridges you mention but they are very expensive and also consume around 40w which is a lot more than the fidge i linked to ealier in this post at 0.6ah.
if i bought the 13w solar panel from maplin's that Buccaneer mentioned surely this would be more than enough to keep a new 120ah battery charged.
on the other hand if i took Barry's suggestion and used gas, providing the gas bottle was on the outside of the boat and my 29L Eltex plastic remote fuel tank was inside my rear right seating compartment sealed and vented to the outside,would this be a safe option.also how long approx would a 50 litre fridge run for on a 4.5kg butane bottle Barry?
paul
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Kaz Steve
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 May 2007 : 19:33:10
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Might I be so bold as to suggest a mains hook up with a very very long lead or as i do, put the beer in a net in the water ( always cold when i fall in ) and eat in the pub !seriously though, I do use an electric cool box, but only on hook up either marina or many quay sides around the broads for £1. This cools things down, and if kept in the bilges, lasts a good while.
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adi-n-chez
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 May 2007 : 19:46:59
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Gas Fridge & Petrol Motor NO NO NO !!!!!
Its not where the Gas Bottle is mounted (Most of us have them outside) its the fact a gas fridge has a naked flame that can ignite Petrol vapour. The BSS is there for our own safety not just to annoy us every 4 yrs.
Accumulator fridges do work & you dont have much choice unless you use an easycool evaporation fridge (Doesnt chill just keeps cold)
Please reconsider the use of a gas fridge ! And lets stop the talk of its ok I'll take it off for the BSS examination, your insurance will be invalid if something causes a problem that shouldnt be fitted.
For instance - I had to improve ventalation to the battery compartment as I plan (But havent yet) to add an extra battery
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trevork
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Posted - 09 May 2007 : 20:28:55
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Sorry Paul, that's not the case. The 40 amps is over 24 hours. I think you will find that the average hourly rate is 0.6 aph. The other benefit is that, using the accumulator, it does not run for 24 hours. More likely 12 hours. Yes they are VERY expensive but they do a good job.
With regard to a gas fridge, the BSC will only allow "room sealed" fridges. The only ones I've seen available are Dometic. The smallest is a 60 litre and the cost? £599.96....... have a look.....
http://www.acornengineer.co.uk/show_cat.php?id=201&start=0#
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gorbo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 May 2007 : 21:52:31
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We have one of these kits and have been very pleased with it
http://marinestore.co.uk/page/mrst/CTGY/fridges-isotherm-aircooled/
we built ours as a chest under worktop fridge which gives us 70 c/l and much cheaper than the alternative, yes you have to build your own box but that cost me £20!! and it can be any shape, anywhere
dawncraft owners
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Barry
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 May 2007 : 02:47:05
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Ok i have the ultimate answer to the fridge problem ---Drink warm beer, eat at pubs, use tinned milk in your tea, hunt each morning for your breakfast and pretend its the 1950's again.
Sorry to labour a point but if the gas fridge is portable, on the outside of the boat, on deck, vented to fresh air ---------- Its less dangeroius than the BBQ you will light 6 feet from the boat on the towpath. Its time to read the BSC regulations and see for yourself
At least we are back on fridges and 13watts of sunlight power i dont think will top up a 110amp battery enough. If it would we would all have one or two and not have a problem with fridges.
There is a water fridge that was around in the days of VW beetle vans that you simpley put fresh water in it and that worked well considering what it was and they still make them now and again.
Now anyone want to talk about Maggie Thatcher and the Poll Tax?
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IanM
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 May 2007 : 07:52:29
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That water powered fridge is what Marilyn was referring to. It's called an Easicool and is now available again here:
http://www.vwcurtains.com/easicool.htm
It runs on the priciple of water evaporation. You have to treat it as a coolbox rather than a fridge. Everything you put in it must be cold already. It will not chill your beer but it will keep it cool longer. |
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nigel-in-oxford
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 May 2007 : 10:17:30
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I don't use my gas fridge on the boat for the reasons mentions.
(I once came close to blowing up a lab when some solvent I spilt ignited from a Bunsen burner 30Ft away).
I have a nice clean area in the bilges that I keep the Milk/beer/meat in.
Milk lasts for two days in the summer, and the beer is cool but not cold.
Norman 18 "Salix Alba" (white willow)
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davem
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 Aug 2012 : 14:35:15
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Hi All,
I've just aquired an Engel fridge 1993 vintage, front opening, built-in c. 40L (came with spare boat). Rumour has it that it chewed batteries on this particular vessel. Anybody got any knowledge on this model of refridgerator - not sure of the exact designation/number as yet - apparantly it is compressor driven but uses a unique Jananese unit based on a floating piston arrangement supported by opposing springs and excited by electromagnetics. Said to draw between 0.5 - 2.5amps when running and has a significant benefit of working at up to 30 degrees of heel - so originally popular with the stick and rag brigade.
Any info gratefully accepted.
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