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| sabnor |
Posted - 19 Nov 2015 : 21:29:32
Hi, I'm in the process of buying this beatifil boat with a 75hp outboard engine.
This is a little big for my taste, but the current owner states the boat would not plane with a 30hp engine.
I enjoy cruising slowly on the water, and imagine I will keep prefering that over flying over it. Still it can be nice to have som power over the open areas of the ocean if caught in bad weather etc. I'm also semi-disabled, so the need could arise to get quickly to the shore.
I can only find images and videos of smaller engines, and none is planing according to my very limited knowledge on this area.
Does this need for a 75hp engine sound reasonable?
It's an old engine, so I imagine I will be replacing it with a newer, smaller one.
Does anyone have any idea of a good engine size for this use?
The brochure states 45-100hp for coastal use - but I guess that's old information, and engines have come a long way since then.
Any input is highly appreciated.
Thanks :)
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| Mfuller |
Posted - 04 Dec 2015 : 14:52:06
Wow, I can't even imagine how much work would need to go into converting to inboard! Would love one myself but well above my ability. |
| mike |
Posted - 25 Nov 2015 : 11:40:12
Just my thoughts
1. If the engine is oil injection then they run better at low revs
than pre-mix engines
2. You must have a second power source in any tidal waterway, on a norman 20 that means a secong engine
3. Get the biggest 4 stroke outboard you can afford/fit/the bracket will take, and use that most of the time. In open water its not a big hassel to control the engine from over the back of the transom
4. As has been said check the strength of the transom.
5. Enjoy
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| stratford4528 |
Posted - 23 Nov 2015 : 12:02:37
[quote]Originally posted by sabnor
How much did the engine and work set you back?
Do you know how much weight it added?
Because I am a self taught engineer it was easy for me to fit. I was lucky and found the engine brand new on ebay for a 1/4 of its new price and the boat already had an enfield leg.How much it has cost me I don't have a price You need to keep looking for a suitable boat. I found a norman 25 with a perkins diesol engine in it which is about 50 HP Although it does need a refit. |
| df |
Posted - 22 Nov 2015 : 23:19:31
You'd probably just be better off buying something like an RLM 31 with twin diesel inboards on outdrives with an engine bay you can stand in, hang on a minute I know where there is just such a fine boat for sale....
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| sabnor |
Posted - 22 Nov 2015 : 21:52:49
How much did the engine and work set you back?
Do you know how much weight it added?
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| stratford4528 |
Posted - 22 Nov 2015 : 20:04:34
I have just fitted a 25 hp 3 cylinder Kubota diesel in my 32. I would say it wont need any major work on it for 20 years +. Red Diesel at £-50p a litre. Also plenty of extra charging power for the batteries and free hot water if needed. |
| cliveshep |
Posted - 22 Nov 2015 : 02:30:53
quote:
Originally posted by Deano
quote:
Originally posted by cliveshep
NEVER go to sea with only one engine.
Most comercial fishermen do, every day!!
Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse.
Freeman 32 "Liberty"
See the photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/54758027@N00/
There's considerable difference between an ancient Johnson 2-stroke and a nice Lister or Gardner rumbling away down below and reliability is rock solid. I've done the fishing bit - one Gardner equals any 50 outboards in my book.
Finally living the dream!
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| sabnor |
Posted - 21 Nov 2015 : 23:36:36
IanM:
I can stop at any time - It's not set in stone. I spent most of the year looking for a suitable boat, and can spend a year more if need be. I don't have to have everything I want - wanting it can be rewarding enough.
For now I gather as much information as I can before choosing.
I was looking at engines with boats attached before I came over this listing.
I instantly liked the boat - I have never seen it before - it's like a smaller version of what I really wish for if everything else was good.
The boat is listed at a low asking price - the engine is almost included - and the only one I have seen on the market so far.
The reason I ask about the engine is because it's old, and doesn't look too good from pictures. Maybe it will run a month, a year, two or five - I try to gather info before it breaks down.
Ideally I will never need to replace it.
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| sabnor |
Posted - 21 Nov 2015 : 23:22:18
stratford4528:
As for choosing an inboard diesel; my health can't handle it, so it will just increase the service cost as I have to pay for everything done to it.
I know this is not ideal - I was actually looking at 24 feet boats with inboard engines, but as I thought about it I knew I couldn't handle it in the long range as the situation is now.
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| sabnor |
Posted - 21 Nov 2015 : 23:16:49
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Originally posted by Deano
A 2 stroke will...
Thanks for very useful information.
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| stratford4528 |
Posted - 21 Nov 2015 : 20:31:36
If I was looking for a boat I would go for a diesel inboard. Far cheaper to run |
| IanM |
Posted - 21 Nov 2015 : 20:18:22
I'm not sure how far through the boat purchase process you are but I have to say that if you think you will be changing the engine then it would be more economical to buy a different boat with the engine you want. A new engine can cost more than a boat... |
| Deano |
Posted - 21 Nov 2015 : 18:33:33
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Originally posted by sabnor
Is there any good reasons for using 2 stroke over 4 stroke except perhaps easier maintenance?
A 2 stroke will produce much more power for it's weight, but will use much more fuel. They also need 2 stroke oil adding to the fuel which can cause some emissions. They really HATE running at low speeds. No new 2 strokes can be sold for pleasure boating...
A 4 stroke will be heavier for the same power output. Is more complicated internally and requires more careful and specialist servicing. They cannot be laid down on either side. Many can only be transported one way up.
Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse.
Freeman 32 "Liberty"
See the photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/54758027@N00/ |
| Deano |
Posted - 21 Nov 2015 : 18:28:43
quote:
Originally posted by cliveshep
NEVER go to sea with only one engine.
Most comercial fishermen do, every day!!
Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse.
Freeman 32 "Liberty"
See the photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/54758027@N00/ |
| sabnor |
Posted - 21 Nov 2015 : 11:43:42
Thanks for replying.
I started out wanting for that kind of engine (well, I still want it), but my health prevents me from doing any work on an engine mounted this low - I need to stand up, more or less, when working.
With an outboard enginge I can dismount it, bring it home to my garage, and work on it for however long time it takes - with an inboard I'm forced to be in the boat while doing the work. That would seriusly limit the time I could put into it considering all the breaks I need to have.
I have also looked at 5-9hps with bracket both for safety and fueleconomy, so I'm with you there. |
