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| Wayfoot |
Posted - 17 May 2015 : 21:33:58
We have a N20 that we overnight in occasionally, however on those chilly nights and mornings I am considering a method of heating the cabin up.
I have read up on those small portable gas heaters that you can buy from outdoor shops but the issues with condensation and Co2's has put me off the idea.
Has anyone got any suggestions for a simple way to heat the cabin without risking our health ?
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| MickJulie |
Posted - 01 Jun 2015 : 23:49:59
It's ok while you are awake and in and out of the boat and it doesn't take too long to boil a kettle and cook bacon, this is what a cooker is designed for. When you start talking to the cooker then I think you have some serious issue's lol
Use it for what it was intended, and my point is ok to use for a short while to cook things but not to keep you warm all night. |
| MickJulie |
Posted - 01 Jun 2015 : 23:43:31
I still say using a gas heater at night and falling asleep is not adviseable in a boat with little low level ventilation. Mock all you like. |
| philihun |
Posted - 28 May 2015 : 18:13:39
There are probably more deaths from eating pies and affiliated junk than from someone trying to warm the cabin up a bit on a cold night. As for a warm pie plus a few beers as you do it's probably safer swimming with sharks. Lighten up please its not ( Houston I have a problem).
pr hunt |
| D46Lincs |
Posted - 28 May 2015 : 07:31:34
quote:
Originally posted by Deano
Almost flush..... but not quite... Big square plastic thing in the bottom half of the picture.
Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse.
Freeman 32 "Liberty"
See the photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/54758027@N00/
If you have decent rub rails and bumpers on the side, this should not be an issue really or fitting where it wont get damaged may be they way forward. Mind you i have been looking at other heating methods and there does appear to be good quality 12v heaters. My worry with these are the batteries, i agree its a bit of a mine field out there and only goes to show how complicated marine heating is turning out to be.
D Village |
| Deano |
Posted - 26 May 2015 : 20:52:09
Almost flush..... but not quite... Big square plastic thing in the bottom half of the picture.
Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse.
Freeman 32 "Liberty"
See the photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/54758027@N00/ |
| D46Lincs |
Posted - 26 May 2015 : 19:39:26
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Originally posted by Deano
I may be wrong, but one if the issues I remember comming up when someone suggested a caravan water heater before is the material the big exhaust assembly is made from.... catch that on a lock wall and you have a big hole in the side of the boat.... I believe they are only plastic??
Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse.
Freeman 32 "Liberty"
See the photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/54758027@N00/
Heater exhaust on a caravan are flush, you cant have stuff sticking out at all, so that said it should fit flush on a boat too.
Dave
D Village |
| deano362 |
Posted - 25 May 2015 : 19:39:19
quote(Mobile gas heater, dangerous, cooker dangerous)
been out for 3 days on our norman 23...told the cooker to boil the kettle when it was on and fry the bacon when it was in the pan...and not to kill us any other time...seemed to work
roger |
| Deano |
Posted - 25 May 2015 : 17:52:20
I may be wrong, but one if the issues I remember comming up when someone suggested a caravan water heater before is the material the big exhaust assembly is made from.... catch that on a lock wall and you have a big hole in the side of the boat.... I believe they are only plastic??
Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse.
Freeman 32 "Liberty"
See the photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/54758027@N00/ |
| MickJulie |
Posted - 25 May 2015 : 15:20:51
Yip, caravans have vents in the floors for low level ventilation, bit difficult on a boat, lol.
Like I said the Norman 23 is below BSC standards with only a cooker in. I had to put vents in the bottom of the door to pass my BSC. |
| Revolvor |
Posted - 25 May 2015 : 10:10:32
I think the regulations/requirements will be different, because Motorhomes tend to have permanent low-level ventilation vents, whilst with a boat, any heavier-than-air gas/fumes will collect in the bilge.
John
Roads? Where we're going we don't need roads! |
| D46Lincs |
Posted - 24 May 2015 : 22:25:31
quote:
Originally posted by Deano
quote:
Originally posted by D46Lincs
I see no reason why this equipment cannot be used and should be a straight transfer.
I would make sure that you are still complying with Boat Safety Scheme if you need one..... I'm not sure go the chapter and verse on this one, but I think you will need a marine venting kit.... if such a thing exists...
Agreed Deano however i would imagine that the regulations for a caravan and a boat cannot be too disimilar due to construction and standards, However i will be fitting upgrades to the venting system and they will be of a marine design.
Dave
D Village |
| Deano |
Posted - 24 May 2015 : 15:12:15
quote:
Originally posted by D46Lincs
I see no reason why this equipment cannot be used and should be a straight transfer.
I would make sure that you are still complying with Boat Safety Scheme if you need one..... I'm not sure go the chapter and verse on this one, but I think you will need a marine venting kit.... if such a thing exists...
Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse.
Freeman 32 "Liberty"
See the photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/54758027@N00/ |
| MickJulie |
Posted - 24 May 2015 : 00:41:07
Hi Deano
The ventillation on a Norman in standard form is borderline, my 23 having failed low level ventillation until I had door vents fitted at the bottom. It is very easy to put the rings on, the grill on and the oven on all at the same time to keep warm on a cold night. It's easy to jump in bed and think I will turn the cooker off when I am a little warmer. It's easy to fall asleep and leave the cooker on especially when it gets warmer and you are tired and fall asleep. There is only so much oxygen in a poorly ventillated cabin and when you start competing with a cooker there is only one winner.
Being cautious saves lives, people don't think about the silent killer.
The pun about the pie was light hearted, it's just an excuse to the wife to warm a pie up and have a warm at the same time. |
| D46Lincs |
Posted - 23 May 2015 : 10:00:39
Good morning all
As you know i am doing up my Norman 17 and the heating and electrics are items that i have agonized over and over, However i had an epiphany one day while thinking about how i upgraded a few caravans back a years ago.
things i have taken into consideration are condensation, ventilation and heating, these items in mind the tack i have decided to follow is i will be fitting insulation where i can and also fitting acoustic carpet to the walls and ceiling thus reducing cold surfaces, then i am going to use the very same heating and electrics you would find on a standard modern caravan, including a truma hot waterunit, hot air heating etc.
I see no reason why this equipment cannot be used and should be a straight transfer.
My Point have a look at the caravan industry the equipment is very state of the art these days and very easy to fit. plus it all works on 240V & 12V
D Village |
| MickJulie |
Posted - 22 May 2015 : 13:59:14
I have tried these screen heaters, i have 2 batteries I use for leisure and one I use to start the engine. I am running a 1500 diesel with high output alternator. When I tried these heaters it was fairly cold, but they didn't have much impact on the temperature. I tried using the excuse of warming a pie up in the oven, this takes the chill off, especially if you have a couple of rounds of toast done under the grill at the same time. If your not careful it piles on the pounds, lol.
I purchased a eberspacher airtronic for £1200 but never got around to fitting it and now the boat is for sale so I cannot really comment on how good the eberspacher really is, but I am told they are very good.
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