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Posted - 23 Aug 2014 : 08:11:20 Just started work on my newly-purchased callumcraft 22. its the one with the round window. It is a project from heaven, or hell. And it all started in a farm field all abandoned for years and years and years.
It is on a trailer (not braked, but just missing the connecting rods I think) and came with a yamaha 9.9. The asking price was 600 and I didn't haggle. I reckon you can't really be done at that price whatever happens.
So, we will see just how it all pans out. I live in lancashire near the leeds and liverpool canal, and there is a boatyard near where I will be putting the boat to work on it. I'm hoping there will be some on-the-spot advice because i am a TOTAL beginner.
I'm very excited at the prospect or getting the boat up to speed and then enjoying her, but winter is not far away and I fear that it will be a factor as i work to try and get it on the canal for next spring.
So what kind of shape is it in? The plastic part is all good and fine, but everything else is really bad, and i mean all got to be replaced no question. Wooden boards were turning to dust, wet dust, in my hand. The floor was giving way as I edged forwards.
But I have a good plan and think that this will be no real problem at all, mainly due to me seeing it as a boat, not the bonnet of mi rose, so no royal yacht brittania stuff here, just marine board ply all functional. |
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Posted - 28 Sep 2014 : 22:30:57 Hi,
I'm in the same boat as you (no pun intended). Newbie, first boat, Lancashire based.
Looking for a boatyard that can haul out and let me work on it over Winter for a reasonable rent. If you can let me know where this boat yard is, and if they can haul out, what rent is etc. i'd be much obliged  |
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Posted - 05 Sep 2014 : 10:13:08 I'm to find out today if I can get the boat to the yard this weekend. I have bought a new camera, so will get pictures up.
I've sketched a plan of action in my mind.
1. Get the outboard on and the cables connected. See if it will steer and the remote works ok. 2. Connect engine to a battery and see if it will run. I'll have to be advised by someone who knows what they are doing. 3. Clean the inside of the boat. 4. Build six units in a fixed positions: a sink unit to left as enter cabin, a cooker/kitchen surface unit with space for loo underneath which will slide out for use, on rt as enter cabin. Then two lockers down each side to sit and sleep on, as long as possible without any break or partition. Add flaps to these to broaden out to make bed on (feet facing cabin door). Aft deck build two lockers at sides. make them large so will always have room enough. 5. put a floor in all round but so that all can be lifted without any trouble to get to the hull all over. 6. fix a table between benches in cabin, each side having its own large flap which can be let down or put up, for when bed made or whatever. 7. Wire in 240v (only need three sockets). 8. Wire in 12v electrics (about four cigarette lighter type sockets, then boat lights and bilge pump, etc). 9. plumb-in sink. 10. Don't bother with any LPG for now, perhaps. 11. fit new windows where necessary. 12. Sort ballast. 13. Decorate. 14. sort outside of boat.
I'm thinking utilitarian, Pompadiou Center, jeep, frigate practicality. Don't want stuff hidden away, i'm proud of the workings, happy to see them, happy as an aesthetic, and hopefully so much so that it becomes a pleasing and comfortable style. Just use marine board ply and simply varnish to seal (no stain).
So that is the action plan. If anyone thinks I have missed something then please say. Cheers. Tat.
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Posted - 30 Aug 2014 : 13:55:25 Thanks, folks. It is good advice and info, the boat safety checklist. I will ask a safety inspector if there is one around.
I'd looked on ebay but didn't find all those sinks. I'm sure that there is one that will do the job. It is a thing to get right. It needs a lip around so that water doesn't run off...some don't! And the drainer is a multi-use surface, so it needs to be sufficiently large. Eventually I will put in a gas hob i suppose, but it needs to be separate from the sink for space reasons. I'm thinking of putting the sink on the right hand side as soon as you enter the cabin, and eventually a hob at the left hand side. I can't wait to get stuck in. I have been getting all my tools together. It is the cold weather I am concerned about. winters are awful. I have a grand plan where I will winter in Spain.
When the boat is done, how would it cope with coastal sailing? I am certainly not going to try and run before i can walk, and I have a healthy respect for the sea. I know I would need a powerful engine, bigger than my 9.9 I suppose. But will the boat handle the sea?
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Posted - 29 Aug 2014 : 20:57:22 Don't fit anything until you have read this... http://www.boatsafetyscheme.org/media/194782/2013ecp_private%20_boats_ed3_public_final.pdf
.... as it will be a right royal pain to have to undo the work you have done to get it to pass. If possible, make contact with your intended examiner and ask for clarification as you go. It could save a lot of time, money and heart ache later on.
i would be tempted to initially not install any gas system at all. Keep the electrics simple or none existent too.
Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse. Freeman 32 "Liberty" See the photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/54758027@N00/ |
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Posted - 26 Aug 2014 : 21:23:17 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pyramis-Small-Stainless-Steel-Kitchen-Sink-Reversible-Drainer-New-62cm-x-50cm-/201154382702?pt=UK_HomeGarden_Kitchen_SinksTaps_GL&hash=item2ed5bc4b6e
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Small-Top-Mount-Inset-Stainless-Steel-Kitchen-Sinks-With-Waste-Kits-Fittings-/230745811428?pt=UK_HomeGarden_Kitchen_SinksTaps_GL&var=&hash=item35b985a9e4
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SMEV-934-STAINLESS-STEEL-SINK-DRAINER-motorhome-caravan-camper-boat-horsebox-/181465370906?pt=UK_Campervan_Caravan_Accessories&hash=item2a402dd11a |
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Posted - 26 Aug 2014 : 19:29:59 All the best with the project, don't forget unless it has one currently it will need a BSS test for most water. If you are using a camping gas stove don't have it anywhere near when a test is done. Gas in a baked bean can is what my last BSS inspector called them. |
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Posted - 26 Aug 2014 : 12:04:25 thanks for the encouragement tig. I photoed the outside and the steering deck. When I went inside the camera seemed to be stuck on macro. I had to bowl on anyway. It was all awful, so i have taken everything out, so it is right back to the fibreglass. It looks ok to me, but will get an expert opinion at the boatyard, hopefully, then I can know it is a goer and get cracking. There is little i can now do until then, so it will be a couple of weeks before I can carry on with the job, but it gives me time to plan and think it through, to imagine it. I have a folding caravan which is about the same size as the cabin. It is basically a simple job of two long lockers, one for girlfriend one for me, to put personal stuff in, sit on and sleep on, and half a table each (a leafed table). Then there is somewhere to brew up and make a round of toast, something like a simple camping calor gaz stove would do the job. This makes it easy, this makes space. If I want to eat anything in the way of a meal i will find a pub. Butties will do, anything easy.
The sink was past it, so i need a sink, a little stainless one. So I'm looking on the internet. I'm interested if anyone has one, a small sink with drainer.
I have the engine in my workshop, and I have the remote control for it and have cleaned it all up, as with the cables. It all seems good, very good. I have a spare new leisure battery. There is a fair bit of stuff like anchors and bits and bobs which i have in the workshop and am assessing and cleaning up, so i've something to be on with.
So it is coming together but will be a couple of weeks now. Maybe in the meantime my girlfriend will have sorted the camera. Cheers. |
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Posted - 25 Aug 2014 : 22:58:39 good luck with it tat, as said keep the pics coming
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Posted - 23 Aug 2014 : 13:21:04 Thanks dean, I will be careful to replace the wood that way. I have been photographing it all as I have cleared it out so that I can see how it was, so there will be plenty of pictures of the job which i will post.
I was recently at a working farm museum, near Grange-over-Sands, and there was an old caravan of the type that steam engines used to tow and leave in the fields and the workers would eat and sleep there. It was like the one Fred Dibnah used to have, in fact now I think of it i think IT WAS the one fred Dibnah had, possibly, because he had been involved in the place. But anyway, I studied the inside very carefully, and have photographs of it in detail. It was a work of genius in its simplicity and functionality, and this is what I want to do with the boat.
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Posted - 23 Aug 2014 : 09:41:22 It all sounds very exciting. Please post lots of pictures for us all to see. One tip... do not throw away that rotten wood. It is far easier to use as a template when cutting new wood than trying to make new templates. Mark on the hull where you removed wood... it will make it easier when it all goes back in.
Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse. Freeman 32 "Liberty" See the photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/54758027@N00/ |
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