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Ray47 Posted - 15 May 2013 : 08:10:27
Be gentle with this Newbie I have just bought a 23 foot MKI, it has a thin(ish) carpet glued to all of the ceiling and most of the walls. Is this standard or has an un-employed carpet fitter had too much spare time? The boat is dry so it doesn't appear to be hiding anything.
Can I remove it and what will the surface/material be behind. I would prefer to do without the carpeted ceiling, it's pretty dusty!
Any suggestions on cockpit flooring (this is also carpeted)
Thanks
P.S. Great web site
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consumedbynature Posted - 05 Jun 2013 : 23:16:49
I carpeted a section of the boat yesterday using the Arctic Blue velour lining carpet I bought from Mega van mats and high temperature spray glue.

This is my fourth boat and I've always used different types of carpet before. The carpet I'm using now is actually Marine proof. I can hands down day this is the best carpet I've ever worked with and a great extremely tough finish. It's so good I'm even going to email the company. I would highly recommend it to anyone re-carpeting a boat.

Ken, good to hear from someone else who has successfully insulated a boat with great results. I don't know why more people don't do it? Probably the cost

Regards Billy

Shetland Black Prince -Fizzy - Worcestershire Avon
(Formerly owned a Norman 20)
ken cattell Posted - 02 Jun 2013 : 13:27:42
Intrested to see Billy using Armaflex to insulate cost of the stuff will double the value of the boat! As an alternative I used carry mats from Go Outdoors. Hikers and campers use them in tents to insulate the sleeping bag from the ground. Hi-Tech do 2 thicknesses 8mm (blue) and 10mm (dark green) 1.8m long by .7m wide if memory serves. Nice to work with I used 10mm against the hull in the rear cabin (the rear bunk areas of my Conquest) then refitted the vynal covered board liners, 8mm went over the single skin area below the windows. Also used 2 layers of 10mm under the bow deck area which previously produced loads of condensation. That along with vehicle carpet lining the front cabin hull sides and foot well area has made an astonishing difference. I stayed on board several times over the winter whilst it was still on the trailer and now its on the river the benefits are really paying off.
df Posted - 01 Jun 2013 : 17:55:32
The original vim is also good for glazed up cylinders on an old smokey engine, chuck a spoonfull into the air intake with a bit of load on and it roughs up the bores nicely, don't do it often though, and best before an oil change just in case it gets past the rings....




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consumedbynature Posted - 01 Jun 2013 : 17:04:10
Hi,

If you want to remove the carpet and get the gel coat clean them try plain old simple Vim. I have yet to find anything better at cleaning gel coat and it does not damage it as long as you use a soft cloth. It leaves a slight white residue. Just use soapy water to rinse.

I have recently used van liner from Mega Van mats in my Shetland to carpet the sides. It is tough and a great finish. Using a lining carpet will seriously reduce condensation in the cabin.

I'm also currently insulating the cabin with 12mm Armaflex foam. It's very expensive but will mean I can use the boat much more in the winter.

Good luck

Billy

Shetland Black Prince -Fizzy - Worcestershire Avon
(Formerly owned a Norman 20)
Ray47 Posted - 23 May 2013 : 20:58:40
Thanks to all you guys for all the very helpful and useful comments. I'd not thought about roof linings, don't know why not, it's a bit obvious really when you think about it!
I'll be taking out the windows to replace the slides and seals so it would seem it's best to do the head lining at the same time to get a neat finish around the windows when the frames go back in.
The plan is to do this after autumn so she will be ready for next year (Is that laughter I can hear from you who know better?)
kev13 Posted - 19 May 2013 : 23:24:24
I got all the bits from Eagle boat windows. cheaper than some others and really helpful husband and wife business. I got my roof lining for a van off ebay as I did lots and lots of other bits
Knighty Posted - 19 May 2013 : 16:07:27
Have an eBay search for roof lining, might make a better job than the heavier cord carpet for the cabin roof and prob look better.
Ray47 Posted - 19 May 2013 : 06:22:20
Thanks Kev13, I realised on closer inspection that leaving the roof without a covering was going to be a major task. Like yours there are that many mods done with shelves and brackets etc it would be a major job to get it looking half decent. I took a trip to Carpetright as others have suggested and have the cord carpet on my shopping list for the autumn.
I was going to ask about windows but found all the answers in previous posts, another job to start in autumn, removing windows and replacing seals and runners. I'll do the roof lining at the same time.
kev13 Posted - 17 May 2013 : 17:34:57
sorry about the spellings in my last comment just got back from work and Friday means a call in the local to check out this weeks special or guest beer. Clearly better than I thought
kev13 Posted - 17 May 2013 : 17:31:54
I've carpeted mine as the previous owner had put so many fittings either to the ceiling/walss or through the wall that I had to use something to cover them up. I use a proper van trimmers felt like carpet. Dark bue at the bottom and grey at the top. I'll post photos of the whole project when I get chance.

By the Ray47 which winter will you refit. I thought 1 year and 4 years later of spare time and we are about to relaunch.

Ray47 when you are ready to start work use the search facility on this site as it is fantastic with sooo many nowledgable people
df Posted - 17 May 2013 : 07:40:44
quote:
Originally posted by trevork

I thought our own "Haddocks Revenge" also had a carpet job???


Only in the bow and floor, it was a floatex ripoff (floorex I think it was called)very thin and very waterproof but comfy with it and easy to clean.
The headlining was original grp jobbie with a few spare holes, carpet burn on yer bald patch is just too hard to explain away.....




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trevork Posted - 16 May 2013 : 22:14:13
I thought our own "Haddocks Revenge" also had a carpet job???
adi-n-chez Posted - 16 May 2013 : 21:17:13
quote:
Originally posted by trevork

True enough Lester! I think it would be unfair to let the impression that lining Normans with carpet is always a bad thing remain unchallenged! We have had accounts on here of very successful examples of this.




IIRC Trev, Didn't Nige & Kaths 32 have a carpeted ceiling ? I remember that being a nice job & they never had any probs with condensation.

Have to say - Not seen 'Scruffy Pup' (Ex Wonderful Wednesday) on the soar for a few yrs must have moved on.

Adi

Sewer Tubes ? I'd rather have a D**ncr*ft (Only Kidding)
Ray47 Posted - 16 May 2013 : 20:05:37
Thanks Lester, I think you are probably right. I'm not taking the carpet off just yet as I want to get some use out of the boat in the nice weather before turning it into a project for the winter.
Thanks also for that link.
I'm also going to ask about windows but I thought I'd better start a new thread.
Lester Mayo Posted - 16 May 2013 : 08:56:27
You will probably find its been stuck with contact adhesive. I doubt you will be able to clean it for a painted finish. Dont use solvent as you will be left with a sticky mess from the gel coat melting.
I would take it off and fit a lighter colour carpet. You could use a cheap felt backed carpet or
I have found a company with the proper stuff that supply car trimmers.


www.automobiletrim.com





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