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| Deano |
Posted - 08 May 2013 : 12:43:29
Hi
Does anyone have any experience of the above water heaters?
The one on my new boat http://www.jonesboatyard.co.uk/boat-sales/freeman-32-mk1-aft-cabin-boat-for-sale-6013.html has an open flue arrangement, can they be installed with all the exhaust gasses exiting through the roof???
Is that even the correct Rinnai diverter / hood areangement????
More on the "new" boat when we get her on the river!!!
Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse.
Freeman 30 "Silver Gem"
See the photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/54758027@N00/ |
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| Knighty |
Posted - 14 May 2013 : 12:29:42
Surprised at the mention of heater should not be used unless a window is opened. As a gas engineer myself an appliance that requires ventilation and is not supplied or adequate it amounts to an AT RISK situation, that's turned off and labeled do not use etc. I would get shot if i walked away from a situation like that and told them to just open a window. Maybe Lpg regs are different. |
| Deano |
Posted - 13 May 2013 : 20:27:53
quote:
Originally posted by Ollie Ollman
Deano,
??? Am I right in thinking a surveyor suggested you could/should turn the heater into a room sealed unit ??? Absolutely no-way !!!
Yes and no, I think from a second reading I should replace the current diverter with the correct Rinnai diverter that partly connects to the top of the heater.
His words...... my orange text..... quote:
Ventilation is provided by a single roof vent, the Rinnai boiler has an open flue with a flue hood arrangement (possibly from a previously installed boiler) which does channel some exhaust through the boiler vent. However, there is a significant shortfall in ventilation (high and low level) so the boiler should not be operated unless windows are opened to ensure the cabin area is sufficiently ventilated.
Urgent
• 11.4 If it is not possible to attach the Rinnai water boiler to the flue then addition fixed high and low level ventilation should be installed (20,000 sqmm high and 20,000 sqmm low).
Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse.
Freeman 30 "Silver Gem"
See the photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/54758027@N00/ |
| Ollie Ollman |
Posted - 13 May 2013 : 14:31:21
Deano,
??? Am I right in thinking a surveyor suggested you could/should turn the heater into a room sealed unit ??? Absolutely no-way !!! Morco do make one but they are not cheap!!!
http://www.morcoproducts.co.uk/stock-5-3/Water_Heaters/F11E.html
regards
Ollie |
| Deano |
Posted - 10 May 2013 : 23:01:02
I think you are all right, the surveyor was talking out of his a*$*.
I'll check the diverter is the right one, it may be from an old Paloma that was on the boat before. If so, fir the correct one and improve the cabin ventilation.
Then start saving for a calorifier!!!
Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse.
Freeman 30 "Silver Gem"
See the photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/54758027@N00/ |
| Knighty |
Posted - 10 May 2013 : 19:14:34
If it is designed to be fitted with a diverter you could be in trouble if you just had a straight flue of the top as the diverted draws air in to assist flue pull and stops any
downdraught going straight through the heat exchanger onto the burner. |
| merlin |
Posted - 08 May 2013 : 20:43:27
you would then be entering in to a room sealed appliance
with a balanced flue 
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| Deano |
Posted - 08 May 2013 : 18:28:50
Sorry, I didn't make myself clear....
It has a diverter (possibly from a Paloma???!!!) AND a flue through the roof.
What I would like is a setup where there is no diverter, just a flue straight from the top of the heater. So all the combustion gasses go outside. Or is that not possible on that heater???
Dean - Boating on the Great Ouse.
Freeman 30 "Silver Gem"
See the photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/54758027@N00/ |
| Ollie Ollman |
Posted - 08 May 2013 : 17:00:30
Try here:
Probably not the cheapest!
http://www.chandleryworld.co.uk/catalogue/rinnai-draught-divertor-58_p5546-1575.html?gclid=CM6Q_envhrcCFa7KtAodyzsAdw
http://www.gasproducts.co.uk/acatalog/Universal_Rinnai_58e_Gas_Water_Heater_Flue_Kit.html?utm_source=googlebase&utm_medium=feedmanager&gclid=CKP2z53whrcCFZQZtAodZyoAAg
http://www.rinnaiuk.com/rinn/assets/templates/shop/Downloads/4_Water_Heater_Downloads_PDFs/17_Rinnai_REU_58e_Installation_Manual.pdf
regards
Ollie |
| Ollie Ollman |
Posted - 08 May 2013 : 16:51:23
Deano,
Under the BSS rules if the heater serves only one outlet i.e. sink then a diverter is acceptable. If, however it serves more than one outlet i.e. sink and shower or is fitted with the internal flue termination then an outside flue is required - flueing to under the canopy would also attract a 'warning notice'. Read here: http://www.boatsafetyscheme.org/media/194782/2013ecp_private%20_boats_ed3_public_final.pdf 8.10.1 to 8.10.4 These are advisory checks so if the boat doesn't meet them the boat will pass the BSS but will come with a 'Warning Notice' and some insurance companies will now not accept even 'Advisories'
Hope that helps
regards
Ollie |
| merlin |
Posted - 08 May 2013 : 16:13:33
I think you still get a flu kit for these probably need to get
a diverter to to go with the kit 
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