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| rainy |
Posted - 31 Dec 2012 : 21:11:26
Hi all
I'm new here. I [well father christmas] have just bought what I think is a Norman but its not going back in the water - its going to be a den for my sons. Its just an old fibreglass shell at the moment but we have grand visions of it becoming 'an amazing space'.
I am hoping to learn from all of you knowledgable folks as I try to build a den in this shell with no experience whatsoever. My hubby will do any heavy stuff, but otherwise its all down to me.
My first question is - can I 'extend' the rear open deck? I'd like to build over this to create one large internal space. Was thinking of using marine ply. Is this feasable?
thanks
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| cliveshep |
Posted - 03 Jan 2013 : 15:33:36
Frankly that is actually a brilliant idea as the basic fit out to usable boat standards as opposed to garden shed standards wouldn't really cost much more. I just took the original post (OP) at face value - "here's an old Norman 22 hull and I'm turning it into a shed."
Trevor - again apologies for this that follows!
Rainy - sometimes I take old boats and re-build them and sometimes I just build 'em. Nowadays I'm too lazy so I just talk about it a bit but if you were to look here you will get some good ideas.............!!!
http://www.dawncraftowners.com/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=24
Basically set up the hull level first, and then how to fit it out with bulkheads (walls to you m'dear) to retain the shape and strength, and how to fit floors, bunks, cupboards etc.
Your boat had a pair of "V" berths in the bow, then to port (left hand side) a dinette that made a 3'6" double bed or a table and two seats for 4, and then the heads (a toilet compartment).
Opposite to starboard was the galley - kitchen to you. A narrow strip down the middle was all the floor there was and to retain max headroom the floor was pretty much laid on the bearers that are glassed in to the hull,with a step or slope up under the dinette where the hull swept up.
A small bulkhead across the bottom of the opening in the main bulkhead allowed the cockpit floor to be raised up and you stepped up into the cockpit with either a bench seat across the back, a 'U'-shaped seat around the back, or two long seats down the sides dependant on model. They could be used as occasional berths under a folding pram type hood.
For you at present - 12mm plywood from Travis - picking a hardwood one with more or less matching veneers allows you to varnish it - will do the bulkheads, 9mm will do all the lockers/bunks, and 18mm will do the doors. 18mm will do the floors. Resin and hardener and glass woven tape can be bought on Internet - so for a couple of hundred pounds you'll have sorted lockers, bulkheads, and doors and floors and glass-fibre and made yourself a boat for now or later! So it is a usable space but has a value later on as a viable boat still.
Edit - forgot to say if you want a layout sketch of the original layout there is one on here I'm certain, and if you want to know specifically how to do certain, or any, or all, of the jobs just ask me, you can mail me via here.
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| adi-n-chez |
Posted - 02 Jan 2013 : 18:36:27
Why not........
Do it up as a Den for the kids but still remember its a boat !
That way once the extensions are removed (Kids grow up) you can either resell or refloat !
Adi
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| rainy |
Posted - 02 Jan 2013 : 14:23:04
Thats my first piece of very useful information - thankyou! I was just going to take out the board where the steering wheel is - but was wondering how to 'straighten' out the sides - so thanks - the bulkhead info is great.
The plan is to refurb to a nice standard so the boys aged [8 & 10] can use is as a sleepover space and room to 'hang out' in their teens, as well as to play in now.
The side long windows are sliding glass - the two round windows are perpex and painted over in black, so I will replace them. The front window is perspex [or similar]. The side windows dont slide at the mo - I presume because the hull isnt 'square'.
I plan to enclose the whole boat so that water ingress is not a problem.
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| cliveshep |
Posted - 02 Jan 2013 : 08:33:54
Yup - that's a Norman all right! At least it still has windows!
You'll need to fit a bulkhead back where the old one was as that is necessary to stiffen the top-sides up but if it is just going to be a land-based "shed" you wont need to do anything else except drill some holes in the bottom for drainage against rain-water ingress. Glass the bulkhead back in to the hull or it'll simply fall out! It's not hard to do and is better than simple nailing it into place through the hull!
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| rainy |
Posted - 01 Jan 2013 : 18:22:06
exterior ply - yes.
hope the pics work.
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| cliveshep |
Posted - 31 Dec 2012 : 23:14:56
By "Marine" ply you had better be meaning exterior WBP because true marine ply is in the order of over £100/sheet whereas hardwood wbp plywood from say Travis is around £18-24 a sheet of 18mm.
So yes - it is feasible.
Post a pic huh?
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