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mikeb Posted - 11 Jul 2012 : 01:35:59
Well, I'm going to view a Norman 20 this evening, and was wondering what the common weak points are on these boats - what and where should I be looking? It is in the water so below the waterline won't be easy!

I've read about rotten wood in the transom, are there any tell tale signs that would indicate this? It does have a rather large outboard on it at present, so I guess if it was bad that's fallen off already! Anything else?
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adi-n-chez Posted - 12 Jul 2012 : 17:52:42
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Originally posted by mikeb

quote:
Originally posted by cliveshep

Nearly all Normans to a greater or lesser degree will have wet transoms bue to the build method - the join of hull and topsides concealed by an aluminium angle at transom well. Unless you intend to plane the boat with a 40hp plus engine I wouldn't worry too much.


It has a 60hp 2 stroke hanging off the back. I'm planning to cross the atlantic with it. (One is true the other is a slight exaggeration!)

Seemed reasonable condition, usable but with a few rough edges (as you'd expect on a 30 y/o boat. He said that the windows leak a bit, but the interior was almost dry, even with all the rain we've had.

It doesn't have a full hood/canopy, just a tonneau cover and a sun/rain shade (wouldn't be much fun in the rain with that though).

The engine is sweet, and it doesn't have a BSS as it's only seen coastal use.



Unless its very cheap or your only planning on estuary / coastal day trips I would keep looking.

Tonneau covers are a pain if mooring overnight - You dont have any cover !!!

Adi

Sewer Tubes ? I'd rather have a D**ncr*ft (Only Kidding)
mikeb Posted - 12 Jul 2012 : 11:42:50
quote:
Originally posted by cliveshep

Nearly all Normans to a greater or lesser degree will have wet transoms bue to the build method - the join of hull and topsides concealed by an aluminium angle at transom well. Unless you intend to plane the boat with a 40hp plus engine I wouldn't worry too much.


It has a 60hp 2 stroke hanging off the back. I'm planning to cross the atlantic with it. (One is true the other is a slight exaggeration!)

Seemed reasonable condition, usable but with a few rough edges (as you'd expect on a 30 y/o boat. He said that the windows leak a bit, but the interior was almost dry, even with all the rain we've had.

It doesn't have a full hood/canopy, just a tonneau cover and a sun/rain shade (wouldn't be much fun in the rain with that though).

The engine is sweet, and it doesn't have a BSS as it's only seen coastal use.
ben111 Posted - 11 Jul 2012 : 12:11:19
depending on where you are we have a norman 20 for sale moored on the gt ouse near st ives look on page three of the forum under swap or sale for details or give us a ring on 07891864959.
open to sensible offers.

ben.

Ben111
IanM Posted - 11 Jul 2012 : 06:38:17
Look at the engine, the canopy and the length of the remaining BSS. These are the "big money" items!
cliveshep Posted - 11 Jul 2012 : 06:08:17
Nearly all Normans to a greater or lesser degree will have wet transoms bue to the build method - the join of hull and topsides concealed by an aluminium angle at transom well. Unless you intend to plane the boat with a 40hp plus engine I wouldn't worry too much.

One place all the 20's are vulnerable is at the main bulkhead line across the boat where the bottom of the bulkheads rot under the floor where they touch the hull. This is due to water from rain or whatever getting in and lying trapped under the saloon floor/bunk moulding.

Once the bottoms of the bulkheads have rotted the hull and topsides can then flex and then the windows start to leak letting in even more water.

However, they are at best 40 year old boats so they've done pretty well so far.


The cost of boating is insignificant compared to costs of a young wife and two teenage kids!

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