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trevork Posted - 22 May 2011 : 11:19:11
Called at Brooms yesterday for both fuel and a suck out. The gauge was reading just over half full and the tank holds 40 gallons. So I asked the fella to fill it up but stop at £100. Surprise surprise! Diesel guffing out everywhere when it got to the grand total of £27! Oddly enough, the gauge now reads slightly lower than it did before we started!
My thoughts are that its likely to be the sender rather than the dial. Any comments or test suggestions please?
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Jimbo Posted - 27 Jun 2011 : 08:40:35
Many thanks for your help in sorting out the wiring. All appears clear now, so will have to wait until the weekend to instal. Once again many thanks.
Moody Cow Posted - 26 Jun 2011 : 20:33:05
no problem send me a pic of the gauge and the wiring diagram and I'll help as much as I can
Jimbo Posted - 26 Jun 2011 : 20:30:28
On the sender is a central connection wired direct to the variable reostat, and on the gauge several connections. It may be easier if I could either email you a copy of the diagram as I do not know how to upload it on this site.
Moody Cow Posted - 26 Jun 2011 : 18:16:59
what connections do you have on the sender and the gauge?
Jimbo Posted - 26 Jun 2011 : 18:11:30
Has anybody, apart from me bought the fuel sender and fuel gauge from ebay, using the link that Moody Cow gave in his recent posting?
Reason for asking is that the instructions that came with it did not show the wiring from the fuel sender to the gauge. There is an oil pressure switch shown in the wiring diagram but this does not tell you where the sender is wired to or even what it is doing in the circuit. Unfortunately the supplier is on answer phone, so I have emailed both him and the manufacturers in India for help. Any ideas please?
cliveshep Posted - 19 Jun 2011 : 06:48:36
I'd tend to agree with Dave, perhaps someone has changed the gauge on the dash which consequently reads the wrong way round or else simply perhaps got the wires switched around?

Too early in the morning - I'm not awake yet. Try switching the wires at the gauge around. Or perhaps the sender unit.


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Moody Cow Posted - 18 Jun 2011 : 20:57:52
Hi Trevor

I presume that all is original and nothings been changed?

You say the sender is 2/3 the way up the tank so I take it its a float on a swing arm, is it something daft like the sender is in upside down this would give you the symptoms that you describe.
df Posted - 18 Jun 2011 : 18:55:56
What make gauges do you have? It may be worth taking both gauge and sender to somewhere like asap to see which bit is cheapest to replace.
Is it a dip type sender with a magnetic float around a centre rod or old fashioned float arm type?
I think the european and american ranges work the opposite way round in different ranges so that would explain the problem.
I have an old 2" VDO fuel gauge here if you want to try it, I have no idea what the resistance range is but it has the numbers 306.271/1/1 12V 3.77 stamped on the side and 472/3.77 inked on the base if you can find anything from that.




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trevork Posted - 18 Jun 2011 : 18:10:35
When you say mismatch Dave, is it the system of reading or a mechanical mismatch? Then which of the two items should I try to match?
df Posted - 18 Jun 2011 : 15:16:01
Sounds very much like a gauge/sender mis-match.




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trevork Posted - 18 Jun 2011 : 12:45:38
Not really had a chance to investigate as thotoughly as the suggestions yet! Too many distractions. However, it seems that as the fuel tank empties the fuel gauge goes up! When the tank is full it reads half full then read just over three quarters full when half empty! Does this sort of symptom narrow down the offending artical at all?
Moody Cow Posted - 26 May 2011 : 18:51:54
Hi Trevor, check the wires to see if the earth does go straight to the earth circuit use a multimeter on ohms, if it does great, earth the other wire to the sender and the gauge should go to full. If you have resistance on the earth it will have a direct effect on the circuit. If all this is ok, check the feed wire for volts if its less than the supply volts then you will need to investigate the supply to the gauge and the gauge itself.
stratford4528 Posted - 26 May 2011 : 18:15:45
On the old type vehicle gauges the tank would be earthed and the wire going to the sender would be connected to the gauge and the live goes to the other terminal on the gauge so when you put the wire on the sender direct to earth the gauge would go straight to full
trevork Posted - 26 May 2011 : 17:57:16
The sender seems to be mounted about 2/3 of the way up the tank with a live and neg. Which do I try and earth to test the gauge or does it not matter which?
Boatmad Posted - 24 May 2011 : 17:43:37
Hi Trevor thought for a minute there you were going to say the marina sucked your fuel tank dry in error.
Peter.

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