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| wisdom |
Posted - 09 May 2011 : 23:22:56
Not specifically Norman but as there are a lot of Normans going to be affected so it makes a bit of sense
Our marina has given us all notice to vacate by the end of June so does anyone have a mooring on Lancaster canal availible for a norman 20.
This has certainly come as abig blow to us all and may finish our excellent boating pastime if we cannot find anywhere quick.
Help please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| wisdom |
Posted - 29 May 2011 : 18:30:59
Thanks all for the help and advice .
We have moved to Catforth so will be out and about at tyhe bottom end more. |
| wisdom |
Posted - 13 May 2011 : 20:20:14
All very good replies.
We will have to see what happens.I kind of beleive a lot of what is said could be true.Intresting point is i havent seen any vandalism. |
| derryboss |
Posted - 13 May 2011 : 20:17:04
I have just Googled her and her surname is Lumb not Lamb and here are her contact details:
British Waterways North West
Waterside House
Waterside Drive
Wigan
WN3 5AZ
T: 01942 405700
F: 01942 405710
E: enquiries.northwest@britishwaterways.co.uk
Key contacts
Waterway Manager
Debbie Lumb
debbie.lumb@britishwaterways.co.uk |
| raymo |
Posted - 13 May 2011 : 19:47:51
the restrictions at galgate are outrageous,indeed are they even legal?
1)the intimation is that the vandals are boaters,but not berth holders,this suggests that the vandals used keys.
2)given that the berth holders on the jettys'have been given notice to quit the suggestion is that the only "trusted" boaters are those with a narrowboat mooring.
3)these facilities were built prior to bwml and are/were bw assets paid for by all boaters.
4)in view of point 3, our licence fee for this year assumes a contribution to that asset,therefore we have a right to use that asset without restriction.
5)even assuming vandalism was caused by non boaters makes the restriction more baffling, why differentiate between berth/non berth holders.
NB,re 2 above,not suggesting jetty berths have been given notice due to this, merely that the only remaining "trusted" moorers will be nbs.
there exists a real feeling that cruisers (ie perceived less revenue), are being marginalised,
one can only speculate upon the reasons for this, prime suspects would be:
a) financial.
b)cultural,ie within bw a "class" preference for narrowboats ?
The above are the thoughts/ramblings of an angry boater,(and the term "angry" defeats the object of boating in the first place).
comments please, fellow lanky disenfranchised boaters !
raymo. |
| derryboss |
Posted - 13 May 2011 : 12:23:23
Following this and the BW Stoppage notice about new restrictions in the use of Galgate sanitary station, I have posted the following on the Freeman Forum.
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I fear that individual emails will just get brushed aside and have sent an email regarding these matters to the PRO of the LCBC requesting that a protest be lodged by the LCBC with Debbie the BW North-West Manager and also to ask the assistance of the AWCC (of which the LCBC is a member) to add some muscle to this before it is too late.
If all else fails, then maybe an all boats protest meet similar to that which was held on April 1st opposite the "Big House" thus getting them to remove all but the notice immediately by the house, that requested boaters respect their privacy and not moor opposite them, is what is required, only this time to involve the press, including BBC NW news, BBC Radio Lancashire and Granada local news as well.
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The BW North-West Manager is Debbie Lamb.
Derrick
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| Buccaneer |
Posted - 11 May 2011 : 09:02:53
Good post Raymo I totally agree and bilsborrow is because of the long line of Narrowboats a one way system.My last boat was a seamaster 23 9' beam and now I have a Freeman 24 and if if boat is coming from the opposite direction there is no room to sail past.
The nb's moor in a very long continious line, never mind the canal they also take over the footpath with chairs and tables and lots of other stuff with their drinks parties and do not want to get out of the way of people walking past.
As Raymo says It was a lot better before the Ribble link.
I could go on they also hog other mooring areas.
Sorry for going off topic. |
| raymo |
Posted - 11 May 2011 : 01:07:07
the only "health and safety "issue i could imagine at galgate is the narrow/non existant pavement on the busy A6 whilst trying to access the jettys. of course this only became an issue when bw made the basin narrowboats only and closed the safer access to all but the narrowboaters.
historically,ie prior to the ribble link opening the lanky was almost all grp cruisers,indeed they are still the majority type of craft.however there does seem to be some kind of agenda to "gentrify" this waterway with narrowboats.
this has patently failed,as the only loutish behaviour to be found is amongst a group of nbs who constantly overstay at bilsborrow are permanantly and loudly pissed, who constantly hog the 24hr mooring and sanitary station and buzz up and down in o/board tenders.
yet bw seem hell bent on encouraging more of the same to the detriment of the shorter(less revenue) grp cruisers.
there is still a code of conduct/manners amongst the established grp community and amongst many of the nbs,however there is an increasing problem with the behaviour/attitude of many of the latter.
i would venture that the worst thing that happened to the lanky was the opening of the ribble link,the best thing would have been that investment being used to re open the northern reaches.(phew! rant over,for now)
raymo. |
| merlin |
Posted - 10 May 2011 : 19:46:30
quote:
Originally posted by wisdom
Hi all thanks for the replies.
It is Galgate Marina.
Not sure of the reason behind emptying us all (not narrowboats)its quoted as health and safety reasons they have offered alternative moorings at Glasson but is that really what everyone wants?????????
thats not good news we were hoping to berth at Galgate according to Trev the care taker it would not be a problem there was a fair turnover of moorings for small boats we had fallen in love with it was my nearest choice living in Ayrshire
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| derryboss |
Posted - 10 May 2011 : 16:29:07
"They cannot be serious!"
Glasson can be a very windy place and is actually more suited to narrow boats than cruisers. Also it will take half a day each way through those ill maintained locks before you can go anywhere on the main line, not withstanding the cost of the extra fuel each time.
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| Buccaneer |
Posted - 10 May 2011 : 13:10:57
Will BW pay moving expenses? |
| wisdom |
Posted - 10 May 2011 : 12:21:13
Its the ones on the jettys below the car park.
Glasson is a long way for a quick trip up the canal that is my concern |
| Buccaneer |
Posted - 10 May 2011 : 12:17:35
That sounds better its nice at Glasson,is it all the cruisers along the bank and also on the jettys below the car park.
How many boat are going to be moved?
And why have they not given any idea if and when you might return?
I understand you do not want to move and there are not many moorings at the moment on the Lancs |
| wisdom |
Posted - 10 May 2011 : 11:50:16
Hi all thanks for the replies.
It is Galgate Marina.
Not sure of the reason behind emptying us all (not narrowboats)its quoted as health and safety reasons they have offered alternative moorings at Glasson but is that really what everyone wants????????? |
| Buccaneer |
Posted - 10 May 2011 : 09:24:29
Galgate is a nice mooring area with toilets and showers,it was once an office base for BW and has a large car park with barrier.
Before the mooring auction it was the dearest per metre on the Lancaster for moorings available from BW.
As I said above the area now occupied only by narrowboats used to be a brokers site that also made canopies and upholstery all now lost in this area.
I can see what wisdom is saying they might develop for more narrowboat but the size of the site adjacent to the main A6 through Galgate would make BW a large one off amount of money for retail/commercial development.
We need more mooring on the lancaster not less.
http://www.alucard.co.uk/lancaster/galgate.htm |
| derryboss |
Posted - 10 May 2011 : 08:41:19
Hi Wisdom
I have transferred your last post as a quote to the Freeman Cruiser Fan Club web site. It could help by making more aware of what is happening.
Derrick |
